Your worldview assumes Jewish dominance and assumes the ideas put forth about who controls the world and how everything is controlled by Israel and Jews. You have to assume that premise in order to say as fact that them ignoring the optics is them losing their "shield" or "defense". They get attacked always and for everything. Just like white people can't win, Jews can't win, so I don't accept the premise.
When liberals assumed that white men are the reason the world sucks, and white people are inherently privileged, they would equally view a white person disregarding the label of racist as foolish for the same reasons you say to the Jew. Just as you know full well that the liberal framing about white men is bullcrap and it's used to justify all manner of evil (punch a nazi where anyone we decide is a nazi), what if you're wrong about the presupposition about Jewish cabalistic control?
Nearly every circular easy reasoning about an "it group" turns out to be wrong, and great evil is perpetuated in the pursuit of this wrong.
Most of the world is far more complex than "this is the group that's responsible for the problems".
The accusations against Jews are by their nature hidden, so any sort of radical call like a "final solution" are heinous because it puts solidifies assumptions which can't be solidified.
Arguments about the Jews nature and role in the world are like views about the illumanit. They are by nature too hidden to have much confidence in them.
People leaping to assuming they're just better observers than others and KNOW Jews are this way or that way and are the cause of this and that in the world and if we just did solution X then we'd have outcome Y are a bit arrogant in my opinion.
I'll take a group we absolutely can observe, the black community. No mystery or hidden nature there at all. They're open about their problems, even brag about them.
What do you do about the black community?
Commit genoicde against them? That's evil. If you're just a pragmatist and don't care about good and evil, then you'll face God's judgement when it comes to that.
Many people have thought about how to fix the black community and we're all left scratching our heads. It's easier said than done. We know the solution is for them to adopt personal responsibility and do the three or so things needed for self improvement, but you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Barring them not holding themselves accountable we say make society stop coddling them, and make society just as tough on them as anyone else.
Ok, how do you do that? You can't is the answer.
So the problem with the black community remains and the only thing you can do is point out the problems and hope little by little the message gets across.
The problem with Jews though is they're not so easily diagnosible.
The black community is highly collectivist.
Jews are collectivist but in a very different way. A liberal secular Jew will be miles different than an orthodox Jew.
And that difference will be different in America than in Israel.
With black community, people who break the mold are outliers. But with Jews, there's no solid "this is what a Jew is and acts like".
So codifiying a single belief about them as a whole is difficult for the same reason it's difficult to codify a belief about white people. Too much variance, too many factors.
It's a ball and cup game with Jews. When you want to point to Jews being globalists, you point to secular atheistic woke Jews with power in America, ignoring that they are often anti-Israel, anti-Zionist. The same Jew led studios that push wokeness, also push pro Palestine sympathies. They are very different than orthodox Jews who tend to be more conservative. The reason powerful Jews are liberal is because they're powerful. All powerful people succumb to liberalness given enough time. It's why the big Christian bands like Newsboys or DC Talk end up leaning towards woke Christianity because money and power corrupts. You want a theologically sound Christian band? Look to a local band who hasn't made it yet.
The same corrupting power towards Christian artists who are rich and famous is the same corrupting power on secular Jews.
But just like DC Talk and Newsboys is not a good representative of Christians as the average Christian does not lean towards woke Christianity, the powerful Jews don't represent the average Jew very well.
And the Jews in Israel don't have very good analogue match up to American Jews either.
The point is, they're not very easy to be codified as the source of all the worlds problems, and most of the accusations are cherry picked and involve ball and cup shifting on who represents Jewishness vs who selectively doesn't.
Holy nuts this is weird. I don't know who you think you are talking to, or what that person has to do with anything I've said, but I don't think I'm even in the same orchard as the tree you're barking up. I could sit here pondering what I said that would provoke this..this thing you're doing, but instead, I'll put a quarter in the hat and back away slowly.
They had a strategy of flying-under-radar that was remarkably successful, and put them in soft-to-hard control over just about everything except China and insignificant pockets of savages in the Middle East. All they had to do was keep reaping rewards, governing with a light touch, and don't get caught, and the gravy train has no end in sight.
And this
The jewish dominance can only exist under continued optics of defense. By their own actions, it's looking less and less, hourly, like defense, and more like power-mongering.
Is this not a statement of the viewpoint of Jewish control of the world?
My statements were a rebuttal of at least pre-supposing that this viewpoint is some infallible foregone conclusion.
Ingratiation is what I described. Most obviously, the United States political, social, financial, media, educational, entertainment, arts, and you name it. It's either outright owned, owes all of its financing to (and therefore is behold to) this power-behind-the-throne influence (note I said "control," you called it "dominance," and these are very different things). The United States still for the time being by far the most potent player on the board, this power is considerable--maybe even ultimate.
"The jewish dominance can only exist under continued optics of defence."
That's literally your quote
As far as my belief if the United States is the biggest player aka the main power in terms of countries, yes we are by a longshot.
Is Israel exacting the level of control the anti-Israel people claim they are?
My position is im highly skeptical of how Jews are portrayed as basically illuminati level of control and again when you're dealing with things like the illuminati, it would be by nature mostly hidden and what I'd say is too much is discounted and cherry picked to hold to the view of Jews being these uniquely evil puppet masters.
I've already explained a bit of why I find the arguments are less than rock solid and I'd either be repeating myself or making other points that people would ignore anyways.
Your worldview assumes Jewish dominance and assumes the ideas put forth about who controls the world and how everything is controlled by Israel and Jews. You have to assume that premise in order to say as fact that them ignoring the optics is them losing their "shield" or "defense". They get attacked always and for everything. Just like white people can't win, Jews can't win, so I don't accept the premise.
When liberals assumed that white men are the reason the world sucks, and white people are inherently privileged, they would equally view a white person disregarding the label of racist as foolish for the same reasons you say to the Jew. Just as you know full well that the liberal framing about white men is bullcrap and it's used to justify all manner of evil (punch a nazi where anyone we decide is a nazi), what if you're wrong about the presupposition about Jewish cabalistic control?
Nearly every circular easy reasoning about an "it group" turns out to be wrong, and great evil is perpetuated in the pursuit of this wrong.
Most of the world is far more complex than "this is the group that's responsible for the problems".
The accusations against Jews are by their nature hidden, so any sort of radical call like a "final solution" are heinous because it puts solidifies assumptions which can't be solidified.
Arguments about the Jews nature and role in the world are like views about the illumanit. They are by nature too hidden to have much confidence in them.
People leaping to assuming they're just better observers than others and KNOW Jews are this way or that way and are the cause of this and that in the world and if we just did solution X then we'd have outcome Y are a bit arrogant in my opinion.
I'll take a group we absolutely can observe, the black community. No mystery or hidden nature there at all. They're open about their problems, even brag about them.
What do you do about the black community?
Commit genoicde against them? That's evil. If you're just a pragmatist and don't care about good and evil, then you'll face God's judgement when it comes to that.
Many people have thought about how to fix the black community and we're all left scratching our heads. It's easier said than done. We know the solution is for them to adopt personal responsibility and do the three or so things needed for self improvement, but you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Barring them not holding themselves accountable we say make society stop coddling them, and make society just as tough on them as anyone else.
Ok, how do you do that? You can't is the answer.
So the problem with the black community remains and the only thing you can do is point out the problems and hope little by little the message gets across.
The problem with Jews though is they're not so easily diagnosible.
The black community is highly collectivist.
Jews are collectivist but in a very different way. A liberal secular Jew will be miles different than an orthodox Jew.
And that difference will be different in America than in Israel.
With black community, people who break the mold are outliers. But with Jews, there's no solid "this is what a Jew is and acts like".
So codifiying a single belief about them as a whole is difficult for the same reason it's difficult to codify a belief about white people. Too much variance, too many factors.
It's a ball and cup game with Jews. When you want to point to Jews being globalists, you point to secular atheistic woke Jews with power in America, ignoring that they are often anti-Israel, anti-Zionist. The same Jew led studios that push wokeness, also push pro Palestine sympathies. They are very different than orthodox Jews who tend to be more conservative. The reason powerful Jews are liberal is because they're powerful. All powerful people succumb to liberalness given enough time. It's why the big Christian bands like Newsboys or DC Talk end up leaning towards woke Christianity because money and power corrupts. You want a theologically sound Christian band? Look to a local band who hasn't made it yet.
The same corrupting power towards Christian artists who are rich and famous is the same corrupting power on secular Jews.
But just like DC Talk and Newsboys is not a good representative of Christians as the average Christian does not lean towards woke Christianity, the powerful Jews don't represent the average Jew very well.
And the Jews in Israel don't have very good analogue match up to American Jews either.
The point is, they're not very easy to be codified as the source of all the worlds problems, and most of the accusations are cherry picked and involve ball and cup shifting on who represents Jewishness vs who selectively doesn't.
Holy nuts this is weird. I don't know who you think you are talking to, or what that person has to do with anything I've said, but I don't think I'm even in the same orchard as the tree you're barking up. I could sit here pondering what I said that would provoke this..this thing you're doing, but instead, I'll put a quarter in the hat and back away slowly.
You said this
They had a strategy of flying-under-radar that was remarkably successful, and put them in soft-to-hard control over just about everything except China and insignificant pockets of savages in the Middle East. All they had to do was keep reaping rewards, governing with a light touch, and don't get caught, and the gravy train has no end in sight.
And this
The jewish dominance can only exist under continued optics of defense. By their own actions, it's looking less and less, hourly, like defense, and more like power-mongering.
Is this not a statement of the viewpoint of Jewish control of the world?
My statements were a rebuttal of at least pre-supposing that this viewpoint is some infallible foregone conclusion.
Ingratiation is what I described. Most obviously, the United States political, social, financial, media, educational, entertainment, arts, and you name it. It's either outright owned, owes all of its financing to (and therefore is behold to) this power-behind-the-throne influence (note I said "control," you called it "dominance," and these are very different things). The United States still for the time being by far the most potent player on the board, this power is considerable--maybe even ultimate.
Is it your position that this is not so?
"The jewish dominance can only exist under continued optics of defence."
That's literally your quote
As far as my belief if the United States is the biggest player aka the main power in terms of countries, yes we are by a longshot.
Is Israel exacting the level of control the anti-Israel people claim they are?
My position is im highly skeptical of how Jews are portrayed as basically illuminati level of control and again when you're dealing with things like the illuminati, it would be by nature mostly hidden and what I'd say is too much is discounted and cherry picked to hold to the view of Jews being these uniquely evil puppet masters.
I've already explained a bit of why I find the arguments are less than rock solid and I'd either be repeating myself or making other points that people would ignore anyways.