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How do you get outflanked this badly? (twitter.com)
posted 127 days ago by AntonioOfVenice 127 days ago by AntonioOfVenice +17 / -0
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– Kienan 7 points 127 days ago +7 / -0

With the lighting and his hair, the still before the video plays almost makes him look like Biden. LOL.

Also, anyone who falls for Newom's crap is an absolute dumbass though. I despise the rhetoric coming out of the Trump admin at the moment, but if you switch to Newsom because you want to protect 2A, you're a special brand of stupid.

But, yeah, the messaging here has been absurd. Trump, Noem, Miller, Kash, and tons of others have attacked 2A, and lied about a dead American who was killed by federal agents. No matter how you feel about Alex Pretti, that should be concerning. So many people are choosing to ignore it because their team did the killing this time.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 3 points 127 days ago +3 / -0

Also, anyone who falls for Newom's crap is an absolute dumbass though. I despise the rhetoric coming out of the Trump admin at the moment, but if you switch to Newsom because you want to protect 2A, you're a special brand of stupid.

You can compare this to people who liked Trump because they thought they fell for his "I'm a peace president". As for me, I'll gladly admit that I was an absolute dumbass for that. It's not as if the electorate is composed of absolute geniuses, even though any loss by the right nowadays is due to "massive fraud" of course.

I doubt that this will persuade any 2A diehard. The fact that you can make an argument for it is bad enough, e.g. "yeah, Newsom supports some restrictions that I think are unconstitutional, but at least they won't support shooting me over my constitutional rights". Still, I think there are more people than you think who support what they view as "reasonable restrictions" and what you view as abominations, but who also don't want their guns to be taken away completely. Most people are not ideologues, so they may be pro-2A, pro-abortion and pro-universal health care.

Look at how Epstein went from being a pro-right issue to a massive liability, even though no one believes that the Dems are better. They're now (rightly) painting the right as being complicit in this, and unfortunately, they do have a point. (The right likes to say that BIDEN NEVER RELEASED THE FILES, yes, he never promised it either, nor did he come up with dumb claims about how they don't exist and how they were also written by Obama and John C. Calhoun.)

This is undermining the right and boosting the left. I try not to be upset about it... so many people on the right think that it's WINNING to copy the most appalling and self-defeating behaviors of the left.

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– WeedleTLiar 3 points 126 days ago +3 / -0

fell for his "I'm a peace president"

I did too. To be fair, he was the first president since Jimmy Carter to not start a new war in his first term, so I understand why people would.

at least they won't support shooting me over my constitutional rights

No one got shot over their constitutional rights. If he'd done the exact same thing with a knife or hammer, the same thing would have happened to him (other than melee weapons don't go off by themselves).

Look at how Epstein went from being a pro-right issue to a massive liability, even though no one believes that the Dems are better.

Cause they're all on the list. Why do you think he never "locked up Hillary"? He would have opened the door to half his party being prosecuted as well.

I mean, that's why I was hoping for but, as you say, these people care more about WINNING than either justice or the wellbeing of their country.

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