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Are there any current/former Dan Bongino fans here? No judgment.
posted 150 days ago by AntonioOfVenice 150 days ago by AntonioOfVenice +23 / -0

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

I don't dispute the fact that someone was shooting and killed that one audience member. I'm only skeptical about if Trump was actually the intended target.

Do you dispute that a bullet skimmed the side of Trump's head?

That depends entirely on what they are trying to achieve. To convince Americans to die in another stupid desert war Trump is definitely the better choice.

At what point? If they stopped him from running in 2016, Hillary or Jeb could've easily pivoted us into a new war. At that time I and many others were still clinging to the idea that Iraq was worth it somehow. Trump was the guy who singlehandedly destroyed that idea. The only significant obstacle was logistics because we were still tied up in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, everything would be solidified in an nigh unbreakable neoliberal consensus on feminism, speech, immigration, etc. Either Hillary or Jeb are ridiculously superior choices.

2020 Trump obviously wanted to win and they obviously denied him. The viciousness he showed in the debates and the extraordinary measures they took to steal the election are proof of that. Then there was January 6. If you assert that all major players were putting on a kayfabe puppet show I don't really see how their movements could be scripted to be so spontaneous. To take just one point, Trump's lawyers made fools of themselves on national TV and then were censured, charged, flipped, convicted, and turned against him.

To what end would they stage the worst presidential election dispute in the nation's history? I suppose the answer would be "to further divide us" and I think that's pretty silly. Assuming everyone is in on it, if the goal is to ease off globohomo and get us into another war, then a clean Trump victory would have been a far better choice. (Moreover, Trump would have started selling neoconservatism a lot earlier.) If the goal is an efficient Great Replacement and a woke feminist tranny state, then a clean Biden victory is better. Mass civil unrest and stirring up the embers of a declining white population makes utterly no sense if both candidates are on the same team. But it does make sense if one of them actually wants to kill the other.

Which leads me to 2024. If all of the above is basically true, then Trump must have been flipped at some point between 2020 and now. I believe he made a deal with the Jewish mafia to essentially save himself at some point after January 6, and they are now calling the tune.

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– horstshort 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

Do you dispute that a bullet skimmed the side of Trump's head?

To this day I haven't seen a single photo of the cut on his ear. It would have been simple to smear a bit of blood around his ear after he ducked. So yes, I have my doubts.

At what point?

I don't think him getting elected in 2016 was planned.

Assuming everyone is in on it, if the goal is to ease off globohomo and get us into another war, then a clean Trump victory would have been a far better choice.

Not if 2020 was simply too early for it.

Which leads me to 2024. If all of the above is basically true, then Trump must have been flipped at some point between 2020 and now. I believe he made a deal with the Jewish mafia to essentially save himself at some point after January 6, and they are now calling the tune.

The beauty of a democracy is you can infest every single aspect of it and won't ever be able to be removed unless the system gets demolished but you'll also never have total control like you would have in an absolute dictatorship. So I don't think every single little thing is planned by them. They have to constantly adapt.

They don't have total control over the system so I can think of plenty of reasons why they couldn't allow him to win 2020 or perhaps why some parts of the system simply refused to allow him to win.

I don't think he flipped. But like I said I also don't think him getting elected in 2016 was planned. And I don't think Trump expected to win. But considering how he already sucked off Israel during his first term with moving the embassy to Jerusalem and killing that IRGC general for example and considering who he was and is in the first place I also don't think he was ever the America First hero many made him out to be.

Did he actually want to change some things for the better during his first term? Maybe. Maybe he wasn't aware of the extent of the swamp before he decided to go into politics. Maybe he had good intentions in 2016.

I cannot tell you with any certainty when exactly he became the complete pawn he is today but I don't think it really matters anyway. It is painfully obvious that he is one now as he can't stop himself from sucking off Netanyahu at every conceivable opportunity.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

To this day I haven't seen a single photo of the cut on his ear. It would have been simple to smear a bit of blood around his ear after he ducked. So yes, I have my doubts.

Trump betrayed no tells that anything was going to happen and reacted exactly as somebody would getting grazed by a bullet at exactly the right time. For there to be nothing suspicious about his behavior, if he knew an AR-15 was about to open up, is pretty extraordinary. Trump's actions afterwards also seem authentic, including the photos when he was buried under Secret Service bodies.

There's also the photo of the bullet in the air by Doug Mills.

The shooter was a 20-year old kid. Unlike the Kirk shooting I think it's fairly uncontroversial that Thomas Crooks was the one they put on the roof and the one who took the shots. Nobody, regardless of complicity, is going to trust a 20-year old kid to fake an assassination attempt with real bullets. For that matter, no 20-year old kid is going to agree to fake an assassination attempt in return for getting shot in the head.

The only people exhibiting visibly suspicious behavior were the Secret Service and in particular the director. What part of the plan was it to have the director tell the world that agents weren't stationed on the roof because of a 3 degree slope? Or have Trump's regular team switched out with DEI goons? On the other hand, if it was a failed mafia hit then that line makes sense - they thought Trump would be dead and at that point, like with Oswald and Ruby, questions would be moot.

I don't think he flipped. But like I said I also don't think him getting elected in 2016 was planned. And I don't think Trump expected to win.

No offense, but this sounds like the wrong ZOG agent got elected by accident in 2016, which is pretty funny.

They don't have total control over the system so I can think of plenty of reasons why they couldn't allow him to win 2020 or perhaps why some parts of the system simply refused to allow him to win.

The rest of my thoughts really go into this line. If there are opposing elite factions that bitterly fight over presidential elections, then we are kind of back to the idea that there is some degree of authenticity to the right/left wing distinction instead of a planned orchestration of history.

You cannot become president without compromising with the Jewish elite. Trump was obviously aware of this and pandered to them in order to bargain for his domestic agenda. But drone striking some IRGC guy is a far, far cry away from everything he's done in 2025.

It has been credibly reported that Trump was scared of Netanyahu before the Kirk assassination, just like Kirk. I think that is exactly what we're seeing. As to why that matters, maybe it doesn't, but the idea that every event is planned makes any kind of action pointless.

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– horstshort 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

For that matter, no 20-year old kid is going to agree to fake an assassination attempt in return for getting shot in the head.

The patsy is usually not in on it. Whether or not it was staged I think we can agree that that kid didn't plan this alone. He wasn't a lone wolf.

Maybe all of it was actually real. Maybe he was supposed to be killed and survived only through a miracle and that's what made Trump bend the knee entirely. Also a possibility. But the entire event just smells really fishy to me.

No offense, but this sounds like the wrong ZOG agent got elected by accident in 2016, which is ridiculous to me. Pretty funny though.

I wouldn't say he was a full blown ZOG agent at that point but yes. I don't think anyone expected Trump to actually win. At least not in the beginning. Accidents happen. Probably quite often.

The rest of my thoughts really go into this line. If there are opposing elite factions that bitterly fight over presidential elections, then we are kind of back to the idea that there is some degree of authenticity to the right/left wing distinction instead of a planned orchestration of history.

Not exactly. They're not necessarily opposed. But they're full of narcissistic, ambitious, power hungry cunts. Let's take Hillary as an example. She's a full-blown zogbot. But she is most definitely ambitious, narcissistic and power hungry and despite being an immensely unlikable cunt that should've never been a presidential candidate in the first place, especially not against Trump. I wouldn't put it past her to have forced them to make her the presidential candidate because she thought it was her turn.

Or let's take the Jews as another example. It isn't unlikely that they are divided into an Israel and a non-Israel camp. Why is Tucker shooting against Israel? I don't buy for a second he isn't part of the establishment all of a sudden. So Tucker might be in the non-Israel camp and Cruz is most definitely in the Israel camp.

These people are not a hive-mind. They're still human. They have their own goals and ambitions. They agree on the end-goal but ambitious narcissistic people don't like being subordinates. So it is very likely that there is a constant power struggle of who is allowed to call the shots. It might be the divide and conquer tactic of those select people who are actually in charge to ensure that their pawns don't try to take their place at some point.

In the end it's all speculation. I can't give you any definite proof but I'm certain that this is has far more layers than we can actually see.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 149 days ago +1 / -0

The patsy is usually not in on it. Whether or not it was staged I think we can agree that that kid didn't plan this alone. He wasn't a lone wolf.

Here's the thing though: that means he was actually trying to kill Trump, which would mean it was a 100% real assassination attempt.

He definitely did not plan it alone.

I wouldn't say he was a full blown ZOG agent at that point but yes. I don't think anyone expected Trump to actually win. At least not in the beginning. Accidents happen. Probably quite often.

I think Trump wanted to win and believed in his shot. Otherwise his campaign doesn't make any sense. Moreover he singlehandedly introduced populism, anti-neoconservatism, and anti-immigration into mainstream discourse, functionally reigniting white identity. In 2016 he definitely cared about something because none of those things are helpful to the elite.

Or let's take the Jews as another example. It isn't unlikely that they are divided into an Israel and a non-Israel camp. Why is Tucker shooting against Israel? I don't buy for a second he isn't part of the establishment all of a sudden. So Tucker might be in the non-Israel camp and Cruz is most definitely in the Israel camp.

You said you're not exactly describing right/left wings but you are definitely describing opposing factions, ideologically, beyond the petty personal ambitions of a Hillary or a Cruz. Which goes back to the existence of conflict that is authentic at some level (not all of them).

I agree that Tucker is definitely connected. Hell, Tucker himself talks about connections with the elite all the time, although on a more superficial level than his actual ties. But if he belongs to a non-Israel camp, then they have identities and they have to believe something.

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