They're being disgusting, deranged, degenerate humans.
Stop trying to pawn accountability off on magic and religion. Don't try to shrug your shoulders and go "yep, those heretics sure do worship magic evil ground king I have no power over, can only go to church and pray magic sky king eventually defeats magic ground king".
These are human problems, that can, and MUST, be solved by humans.
We, all of us good men, must simply choose to stop doing nothing. But we don't, because doing nothing is easy, and doing something is hard. And so we all carry a sliver of responsibility for what we have allowed our civilization to slide into.
You don't get to hand you sliver away by saying "it were that narmy bloke satan again, innit?"
Its not splitting hairs. Its a core philosophical disagreement.
If you come at the problem from an assumption that satan is real, and has a credo, and that credo has followers, you are fundamentally disengaged from reality. Your view of the baseline suppositions of whomever is being discussed stems from a fictional god creature, which can only be defeated by another fictional god creature from the same mythos, and whose servants can at best be resisted by mortal men.
If you come at the problem from my position, which does not require gods or devils or magic and only look at them as evil humans, then you carry no illusions that we wouldn't be able to destroy these people and their ideologies, root and stem. The realist position doesn't need a higher order existence to move pieces on a board, it merely needs good men willing to take a stand.
If you can't understand why the philosophical underpinnings of a call to action are critically important to the long term viability of the movement and what sort of outcomes one can expect from adherents to the movement, then you have no place at the discussion table; you are absolutely unqualified to have an opinion on the matter.
No, they aren't, because satan isn't real.
They're being disgusting, deranged, degenerate humans.
Stop trying to pawn accountability off on magic and religion. Don't try to shrug your shoulders and go "yep, those heretics sure do worship magic evil ground king I have no power over, can only go to church and pray magic sky king eventually defeats magic ground king".
These are human problems, that can, and MUST, be solved by humans.
We, all of us good men, must simply choose to stop doing nothing. But we don't, because doing nothing is easy, and doing something is hard. And so we all carry a sliver of responsibility for what we have allowed our civilization to slide into.
You don't get to hand you sliver away by saying "it were that narmy bloke satan again, innit?"
Dumbass
Ah, the standard intelligent response, as always.
You sound like someone who paid $50k for a degree to work at starbucks.
tips yarmulke
If you're splitting hairs over something like this at this point, you're not a serious person.
Its not splitting hairs. Its a core philosophical disagreement.
If you come at the problem from an assumption that satan is real, and has a credo, and that credo has followers, you are fundamentally disengaged from reality. Your view of the baseline suppositions of whomever is being discussed stems from a fictional god creature, which can only be defeated by another fictional god creature from the same mythos, and whose servants can at best be resisted by mortal men.
If you come at the problem from my position, which does not require gods or devils or magic and only look at them as evil humans, then you carry no illusions that we wouldn't be able to destroy these people and their ideologies, root and stem. The realist position doesn't need a higher order existence to move pieces on a board, it merely needs good men willing to take a stand.
If you can't understand why the philosophical underpinnings of a call to action are critically important to the long term viability of the movement and what sort of outcomes one can expect from adherents to the movement, then you have no place at the discussion table; you are absolutely unqualified to have an opinion on the matter.