Yeah I get that in real life too lol. I get a lot of misreads from people who first meet me. It doesn't bother me and I understand when people want to put me in a box. It's when they start treating me like the box they want me in that I've always found funny.
My nerd culture knowledge really just doesn't dip that far into internet lore. I grew up on video games and know a lot about card games and tabletops etc, but I don't follow meme lore too deeply or take it too seriously.
I'm not nagging you to fight "again" I'm nagging you to respond. I think good points were brought up and they deserved proper attention. Each message you learn something new about me that, maybe, you'd have come into a previous message with a different POV had you known XYZ earlier.
"Unusual mix of character traits" is a good one. A friend of mine once said that I am "like a magic eye, where you can't tell what I am until you look at me just right."
You never needed "great detail" to explain yourself. I was just looking for some detail because I found your reaction to my thought really amusing, and had assumed that you built up an idea of who I was and what I had done.
now I don't suspect I need to be the fiery asshole to shock someone out of complacency anymore I just want to go back to chilling out and making jokes.
Great news! You never need to be. Chilling out and making jokes is my general MO, and I still know how to turn on the heat and get shit done if need be. Happy to let you know you can have it both ways.
Oh the great detail part is more because I am very much aware of and intending for a heated public discussion like this to be a form of evangelism for a view I believe will improve things to anyone else who stumbles across it. So I'm often motivated to continue a discussion even when someone seems intractable if I haven't sufficiently fleshed out my rational for the disagreement for any potential third party consumption. That was just me thinking outloud that I feel I've already fulfilled that goal and the only consideration left is if our own interpersonal discussion is going anywhere.
And yeah, I know I can have it both ways. I disagree that I never have to be the fiery asshole, it gets results sometimes, although context clues wise I think you just meant specifically with you, and yeah I'm past thinking that might be needed. We're all good brother.
Hm. You were seemingly abandoning the thread until I pestered you, so you didn’t seem all that motivated to add context. You hadn’t really fulfilled any goal of having detail until I pressed for it as well. Your memory of how this exchange went is very different from mine.
I’m sure being the first asshole does get results sometimes. My proposal is that you could have also achieved those results not being a firey asshole.
Whatever floats your boat, if you want to believe I was the asshole first go ahead. It's another funny incongruence that you'll give such leeway to the guy who stole your bike/bought a stolen bike, but apparently think someone disrespecting you back after you disrespect them is somehow the original asshole.
And to me the whole thing was a cohesive argument at the point I disengaged. Everything after that was just a mixture of reading comprehension tutorial for yourself, rehashing the original points in a more verbose, hand holding way, an etiquette lesson on spamming people for replies, and addressing a small assortment of new non-sequiturs.
My proposal is that you could have also achieved those results not being a firey asshole.
And you seem to be misunderstanding, my perspective is the result here is nil. You have been entirely intractable about both the general negative points of choosing to believe in fairy tale outcomes of real world events as an adult. And the inappropriateness of constantly inserting yourself into people's notifications for your own entertainment/ego-padding, to which I'm not even the first person in this thread to point that pattern of behavior put to you. So I guess technically I could have got the same result by not trying, yes, but that info is not nearly so useful to me as you think it should be.
It's another funny incongruence that you'll give such leeway to the guy who stole your bike/bought a stolen bike, but apparently think someone disrespecting you back after you disrespect them is somehow the original asshole.
lol sorry, where did I disrespect you? By saying you don’t need to be the asshole when you said sometimes you have to be the asshole? Or something else?
You have been entirely intractable about both the general negative points of choosing to believe in fairy tale outcomes of real world events as an adult.
The “negative outcomes” you’ve listed (not taking proper action after the theft, not being more vigilant about if/when it happens in the future, etc) are things that aren’t happening here, so now I’m confused again about what negative points you’re referring to. Whatever clarity you think you’ve brought to the argument is muddied again.
Yeah I get that in real life too lol. I get a lot of misreads from people who first meet me. It doesn't bother me and I understand when people want to put me in a box. It's when they start treating me like the box they want me in that I've always found funny.
My nerd culture knowledge really just doesn't dip that far into internet lore. I grew up on video games and know a lot about card games and tabletops etc, but I don't follow meme lore too deeply or take it too seriously.
I'm not nagging you to fight "again" I'm nagging you to respond. I think good points were brought up and they deserved proper attention. Each message you learn something new about me that, maybe, you'd have come into a previous message with a different POV had you known XYZ earlier.
"Unusual mix of character traits" is a good one. A friend of mine once said that I am "like a magic eye, where you can't tell what I am until you look at me just right."
You never needed "great detail" to explain yourself. I was just looking for some detail because I found your reaction to my thought really amusing, and had assumed that you built up an idea of who I was and what I had done.
Great news! You never need to be. Chilling out and making jokes is my general MO, and I still know how to turn on the heat and get shit done if need be. Happy to let you know you can have it both ways.
Oh the great detail part is more because I am very much aware of and intending for a heated public discussion like this to be a form of evangelism for a view I believe will improve things to anyone else who stumbles across it. So I'm often motivated to continue a discussion even when someone seems intractable if I haven't sufficiently fleshed out my rational for the disagreement for any potential third party consumption. That was just me thinking outloud that I feel I've already fulfilled that goal and the only consideration left is if our own interpersonal discussion is going anywhere.
And yeah, I know I can have it both ways. I disagree that I never have to be the fiery asshole, it gets results sometimes, although context clues wise I think you just meant specifically with you, and yeah I'm past thinking that might be needed. We're all good brother.
Hm. You were seemingly abandoning the thread until I pestered you, so you didn’t seem all that motivated to add context. You hadn’t really fulfilled any goal of having detail until I pressed for it as well. Your memory of how this exchange went is very different from mine.
I’m sure being the first asshole does get results sometimes. My proposal is that you could have also achieved those results not being a firey asshole.
Whatever floats your boat, if you want to believe I was the asshole first go ahead. It's another funny incongruence that you'll give such leeway to the guy who stole your bike/bought a stolen bike, but apparently think someone disrespecting you back after you disrespect them is somehow the original asshole.
And to me the whole thing was a cohesive argument at the point I disengaged. Everything after that was just a mixture of reading comprehension tutorial for yourself, rehashing the original points in a more verbose, hand holding way, an etiquette lesson on spamming people for replies, and addressing a small assortment of new non-sequiturs.
And you seem to be misunderstanding, my perspective is the result here is nil. You have been entirely intractable about both the general negative points of choosing to believe in fairy tale outcomes of real world events as an adult. And the inappropriateness of constantly inserting yourself into people's notifications for your own entertainment/ego-padding, to which I'm not even the first person in this thread to point that pattern of behavior put to you. So I guess technically I could have got the same result by not trying, yes, but that info is not nearly so useful to me as you think it should be.
lol sorry, where did I disrespect you? By saying you don’t need to be the asshole when you said sometimes you have to be the asshole? Or something else?
The “negative outcomes” you’ve listed (not taking proper action after the theft, not being more vigilant about if/when it happens in the future, etc) are things that aren’t happening here, so now I’m confused again about what negative points you’re referring to. Whatever clarity you think you’ve brought to the argument is muddied again.