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Final Boss of the Liberal Disease (twitter.com)
posted 148 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 148 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +66 / -0
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– Modeler43 1 point 147 days ago +1 / -0

Okay pal. You're free to think that. It literally does not matter to me.

I'm finishing out on top pretty well. I've got a great condo, heated parking, a fresh new bike, great social life, and I attribute a lot of that to people seeing me as good and want me to have around, hence I don't just hope my community well being is healthy, but I actively contribute to keeping it healthy. I'm not pretending at all. I just don't see what my other option should be. What betterment does it provide if I'm instead seething about my bike still, almost four years after the fact? Tell me what the harm is in just thinking it might very well be in the hands of some down on his luck fellow?

For the record, I don't actually think that's where it is. But I'm curious where the harm, at all, is in thinking it. What is the actual, tangible, consequence? What is my thought process directly contributing to?

I really would like to address it directly, and I hope you don't say something like "oh it's obvious I can't just tell you blah blah" (I get a lot of that on this site, unfortunately). I genuinely just don't see your point. I assure you I am of sound mind and am very open to hearing your logic, so I hope you'll take the time to walk me through the consequences of my line of thinking.

I'm not above the society that feeds and protects me. I don't know why you believe I think that.

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 147 days ago +1 / -0

Well for a start you're not just thinking it, you're out here advocating for believing in the improbable fairy tale version of events as a valid coping mechanism, which is de facto advocating for negligence instead of people playing their part in converting a theoretical framework of right and wrong into reality.

And it is negligence, albeit a mild one. You're supposed to seethe a little bit when your bike gets stolen, and yes you're supposed to do something to stop seething about it. But that something's not supposed to be deluding yourself into thinking it ended up as little timmy's christmas present. You're supposed to ask why your bike was stolen with no consequence even though we as a society have agreed that theft is, in fact, wrong. You're supposed to think about what missing safeguards would have prevented that and advocate for their instatement, or if someone was negligent in their duty to already an already existing safeguard you give them a hard time about it. It won't bring your bike back, but you do it so the next guy's bike is just a little bit less likely to be stolen. Failing that you at least resolve to yourself to intervene if you ever think something fishy is going on with a bike, embarrassment be damned.

And I don't doubt you are thought of well in your community, and that that definitely does pay dividends. The most prosperous communities still tend to be the ones with a high level of sharing and collaboration. It's a real chicken and the egg situation there, collaboration leads to general prosperity, but it's also very easy to ignore little frictions and work together when everyone is already doing well for themselves. Eloquent avoidance and permissiveness is a tremendously safe and effective strategy for appearing good in those circumstances for little actual cost, the more superficial the community interactions are the greater the cost/benefit outcomes become. You can prove you're good to ten people through direct individual interactions, or you can just do one good thing and make sure to bring it up a hundred people who aren't really paying much attention to your day to day life about it, but have enough resources to throw a little something your way anyway. Appearing good in those circumstances is a social capital that is ripe for conversion into real capital with minimal effort, that's the essence of the empty virtue signalling grift. But appearing good and doing good are very much decoupled in a superficial community, appearing good is a social game to which actually doing good is a sub-optimal strategy for being so inefficient.

It's not like our forefathers wouldn't also feel sympathy for the security guard who just forgot to lock the gate, they just knew that if they chewed him out about it anyway he's still more likely to remember next time than if they just quietly let it slide. Sometimes you have to look like the bad guy superficially and burn some social capital sometimes to do actual good things long term. But somehow the majority of people with generally good intentions have become so gelded politically that they don't even think they can make hard decisions or initiate any conflict without making things worse instead of better.

The cumulative effect of years of proverbial bike cuckoldry has left all the real decision making to an insular elite with no such compunctions about wanting to be good handicapping their will to power. And have left a prosperous and oft well meaning middle class of naive socialites on the precipice of collapsing into a lower class who now either hates them because they were once richer, or hates them for effectively being highly competent freeloaders, benefitting maximally from society's stability and contributing minimally to protecting it, all whilst subjecting them to the whims of their silly social games. On an individual level it can make for a lovely to person to know, which makes it all the more of a shame that on a societal level it feels like watching cute and fluffy lemmings waving to the predators below as the cliff edge is beging to crack and someone is making off with all their nest eggs.

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– Modeler43 1 point 147 days ago +1 / -0

You're supposed to seethe a little bit when your bike gets stolen, and yes you're supposed to do something to stop seething about it...You're supposed to ask why your bike was stolen with no consequence even though we as a society have agreed that theft is, in fact, wrong. You're supposed to think about what missing safeguards would have prevented that and advocate for their instatement, or if someone was negligent in their duty to already an already existing safeguard you give them a hard time about it.

Yeah buddy I did all that. I did that years ago when it happened for about a week. Then I was done. I got a new bike, I got a new lock, it's over. You want me to keep seething? You want me to keep asking why? No thank you. There's no answer. It's gone.

What good does it do, at all, to keep being mad about it?

Your concern seems to still just be centered around me thinking in the wrong way.

Sometimes you have to look like the bad guy superficially and burn some social capital sometimes to do actual good things long term.

So what should I do instead? If you were in my situation right now, bike was stolen 4 years ago, what would you do to do actual long term good?

I don't want any "well I wouldn't do xyz, think it was being ridden by some less fortunate being," that much is obvious. What would you do differently that you don't think I've done?

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– BandageBandolier 1 point 147 days ago +1 / -0

Look I know the replies are long but it's a bit of a frustration when you keep asking for things I've already addressed.

You're supposed to seethe a little bit when your bike gets stolen, and yes you're supposed to do something to stop seething about it. ... You're supposed to ask why your bike was stolen with no consequence even though we as a society have agreed that theft is, in fact, wrong. You're supposed to think about what missing safeguards would have prevented that and advocate for their instatement (etc.)

If you really did all that properly you don't need to invent fictions about them needing your bike to feel satisfied. Asshole stole your bike, you did something to make sure he doesn't get away with it next time. Done. If you didn't feel satisfied, maybe you subconsciously knew that just throwing money at a new bike lock wasn't really doing very much, given the "new" implies the old one didn't exactly work.

So what should I do instead? If you were in my situation right now, bike was stolen 4 years ago, what would you do to do actual long term good?

I'd stop encouraging people to retreat into fiction instead of taking charge of their community's problems. I thought I'd been pretty clear on that already.

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– Modeler43 1 point 147 days ago +1 / -0

I addressed that paragraph already specifically. I asked the question about what I should do instead because that paragraph doesn’t answer it. I’m plenty satisfied with things currently. I told you I got over it. I genuinely don’t get why you’re thinking otherwise.

But what’s “properly,” in terms of seething? How long am I supposed to seethe? I’m not gonna keep being angry about a bike years later when it doesn’t bring any good to the picture. Does it make the world a better place for me to seethe longer? To keep asking why? How many more times do I have to ask why?

maybe you subconsciously knew that just throwing money at a new bike lock wasn't really doing very much, given the "new" implies the old one didn't exactly work.

Pretty big stretch, friend. I'm not even sure what you mean by the logic. My new bike lock is sick.

“New” implies recent and “old” implies previous. I got a different brand that I like using a lot more than my old U lock. I had wanted one even before my bike was stolen. I called it new because it was new and I had to buy a new lock

I'd stop encouraging people to retreat into fiction instead of taking charge of their community's problems

Great, I know what you want me not to do. I’m glad I haven’t done that. You'll notice I've never done any encouraging in this thread, only shared my perspective.

What would you do differently that you think I have not yet done? You mentioned “Sometimes you have to look like the bad guy superficially and burn some social capital sometimes to do actual good things long term.” What is it that I have to do that does actual good long term despite burning social capital?

Is your answer to literally just seethe more? Because that’s all you’ve said so far. I hope not. I literally don't see the purpose in still being angry about it. I’ve gotten the new bike, I’ve set better care to make sure it doesn’t happen again, I’m satisfied with where I’m at now. What else are you expecting me to do?

(I'm predicting a "I've given you all the answers you figure it out now" but I'm really hoping you're able to at least articulate something instead of trying to play coy and mysterious like I see so often in discussions like this)

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