Empires seem to deploy their powers to the maximum, desisting only when they no longer have the wherewithal. We may soon be reminded that it was American decline that put Mr. Trump in a position to set American foreign policy in the first place.
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Do you think this strengthens your arguments?
I think that their criticism is that Trump does nothing actually populist, but is doing a lot of neocon things.
This has tinges of "why aren't you criticizing Sudan, eh"? Because they helped Trump get into office, and they expect him to honor his campaign pledges, instead of waging neocon wars for oil and wars for Israel. You need to hold your own accountable.
Unlike you and the Born Again neocon psychos.
It's funny that you never specify what they counter-signal. A mindless war of aggression. Sounds less good when you say that they 'counter-singla every time Trump does a war of aggression' than when you say 'Trump does anything'. Trump isn't eating ice-cream. He's bombing countries and killing innocent people without any fig-leaf.
Yeah, doing nothing is better than doing stupid and evil things. This shouldn't be new to you if you're an adult.
dagthegnome: "Hey, I'm going to eat my shit."
Antonio: "Maybe not do that, friend."
dagthegnome: "And the alternative is to do NOTHING? You're always counter-signaling whenever I do anything. Sorry, I'd rather do something than nothing. Mmmmmm... "
As I said in another thread, if the Iraq War weakened the United States as much as leftists and so-called rightwing pundits are insisting they have, then I will wait patiently to see what the international community is going to do about it. I'm waiting to see Bush brought to justice for his crimes against international law. What are they going to do about it?
Regime change in Iraq, regime change in Venezuela. It's the "exact opposite" because you don't want your latest adventure compared to what is now recognized as a disaster, but wasn't at the time by all the same people who now advocate this.
Yes, they have different coordinates in spacetime. They are both stupid neocon regime change wars of aggression though.
You couldn't be convinced that the sky is blue.
Where's the lie, though?
Yes, literally everything the US does outside its own borders is neocon.
Nick Fuentes helped Trump get into office by repeatedly encouraging his audience not to vote for Trump, calling Tim Walz a real white guy and a sincere politician (02:22:20) and glazing Kamala's "brat" astroturf? Tim Pool helped Trump get into office by endorsing RFK? Candace Owens helped Trump get into office by endorsing Vivek?
It is not neocon for the US to assert its dominance in its own hemisphere. There is no liberal ideological push here to "spread democracy." Trump doesn't seem to care who runs Venezuela so long as they're not a Chinese puppet that traffics drugs into the United States, interferes in US elections and bribes US officials.
Do you think this strengthens your arguments?
Yes. Hey, Trump, there's a Chinese client state in our hemisphere that's one of the world's top cocaine producers responsible for funneling drugs into our country, and tampering with US elections. But it would be stupid and evil for you to take any action that might put a stop to that. Taking action against hostile powers that threaten US security and sovereignty is neocon, dontcha know?
What kind of MAGA did you think they were voting for?
There is no ongoing US occupation of Venezuela. There was never a US occupation of Venezuela. There are no American troops in Venezuela. Let it go, man.
The sky is blue. I have seen pretty convincing evidence of that. I have seen no evidence that the US incursion into Venezuela bears even the remotest resemblance to the Iraq war, and I've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary. I invite you to try and convince me.
Stark-mad raving.
Note that whenever you criticize a specific action, he will say that you think that "literally anything" is X. It's like when you criticize him for eating his own shit, as it's disgusting, and he replies with "YEAH, literally anything I do is disgusting and unhygienic".
I guess since you believe in "might makes right", you have absolutely no moral compunction about lying, cheating and stealing, as you do here.
Nick Fuentes, like you, is a warmonger against Venezuela and advocate for stealing their oil. You have some good company.
Calling people out for changing their mind over the course of five days? I think it does, not that the arguments needed strenghtening.
The kind that made no mention of Venezuela or bombing Iran, and in fact, alleged that Obama would bomb Iran because he's a loser and can't negotiate (like the fat oaf).
You ask me how Venezuela is similar to Iraq. I answer you, both neocon regime change wars of aggression, and you reply "WELL, VENEZUELA HAS MORE SYLLABLES". That doesn't negate the similarities that I've pointed out.
Again, you believe that lying and cheating is justified, and it shows.
Didn't say you don't believe it, only that you couldn't be convinced of it - i.e., convinced of something so blatantly obvious.
You've gone crazy. What's going on with you? Either you've been crazy for 11 years, and you hid it very well, or this is a recent phenomenon.
I literally didn't say that. I explained to you that a single incursion and exfiltration is not in any way similar to a lengthy military occupation. I refuse to believe you are stupid enough to read that, then draw the conclusion you have drawn in the above statement, and am therefore forced to conclude that accusing me of lying is pure projection.
There are no similarities between Venezuela and Iraq. The more you try to say there are, the more you reveal your own broken psyche. US military involved, therefore Iraq is the same surface-level analysis spewing out of the mouths of every leftist Millennial who never left the year 2003.
From Smartmatic providing the software Dominion used to help rig the 2020 election, and likely numerous US elections before it, to Chavez releasing 250 000 felons from Venezuelan jails and sending them into the US to Maduro using his troops to protect drug trafficking boats headed for American shores, no self-respecting country that has the power to do something about it would ever allow that level of foreign aggression and interference to go unanswered. Trump cut the head off of it without incurring a single American casualty. This is what MAGA has always meant to MAGA voters. This is America First.
You didn't figure out that you were being mocked? Pointing out that the country's name is different does not negate that this is a neocon regime change war of aggression.
What euphemisms you make up for wars of aggression and kidnapping. Hope there never is any incursion in your home and exfiltration of you (I do mean that) by all the immigrants Canada is bringing in.
It's a neocon regime change war of aggression. Not even a similarity, more of an identity.
Weren't you complaining about me allegedly leveling playground-level insults at you?
The ones who supported Dick Cheney's candidate for president?
Literal Sidney Powell-tier insanity.
Chavez is dead. Scotland should send in special forces to kidnap Keir Starmer. Why? King Edward I invaded Scotland in 1299.
Leaving aside that this is very likely BS. But you're a cultist who'll repeat whatever Chump says.
No self-respecting country would ever accept the stuff that I just made up on the spot. See, this is why I doubt that you opposed the Iraq War (and you think might makes right, so you have no problem lying and cheating). I bet you were repeating every single lie about WMDs that you were fed.
We went from "not a single Venezuelan civilian casualty", a big fat lie, to "not a single American casualty". (You probably don't know that the wounded are also casualties.)
You keep repeating that "MAGA always meant to MAGA voters what Trump never said and actively campaigned against" like you're some sort of ChatGPT. Just keep repeating it ad nauseam.
I also notice that on any and all points that you lose, you simply ignore. You started out by claiming that Venezuela cannot possibly have weakened the US, because if no one is taking Trump to court for war crimes, the US wasn't weakened. Then you contradicted yourself by admitting that a previous neocon regime change did weaken the US, and you expected everyone to just forget about everything you said.