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Literally every cent of your income tax is going to fraud (twitter.com)
posted 153 days ago by SparkMandrill83 153 days ago by SparkMandrill83 +91 / -0
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– CaptainTrouble 5 points 153 days ago +5 / -0

How do we prove to people that $1.5t is going to fraud?

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– TheMafia 13 points 153 days ago +13 / -0

2020 budget was $3T.

2025 budget is $6T.

Is anything twice as good now?

It's so much more than $1.5T.

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– CaptainTrouble 7 points 153 days ago +7 / -0

The value of money nearly halved in that time but they're hiding that fact.

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– TheMafia 3 points 153 days ago +3 / -0

One started before the other. Are you sure you remember the order correctly?

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– MLGS 9 points 153 days ago +9 / -0

You can't prove it to a certain segment of people, it's like trying to talk about what trannies are really like where it's so totally degenerate and insane that normal people just shut it out and don't believe you.

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– CaptainTrouble 3 points 153 days ago +3 / -0

Okay, so prove it to me.

From my perspective, I think social programs are a waste of money but I don't think they're all fraud.

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– TheMafia 11 points 153 days ago +11 / -0

You have the logic backwards.

Prove they work.

Show the results. For every dollar you TAKE from me, what, exactly are we getting back? Where possible please show me audits and the work of motivated regulators.

Finally prove competition and the private sector cannot or would not solve any of these problems given the chance.

This should be easy. The government should already be doing all of this work. The necessary reports and data should be all online. The legislative debate that led to these programs should also be easy to find and understand for context.

Sorry for the extremity of rhetoric but this should be table stakes for how our government works and it clearly isn't. So.. guess what you end up with.. fraud.

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– CaptainTrouble 2 points 153 days ago +2 / -0

When the government takes $1t from you and spends $2t on healthcare, not much of that is fraud, though there will be some, but you specifically aren't getting equal value to what you pay in taxes. That's the whole point of ALL social programs. Someone is paying more than what someone else is receiving.

The private sector would be better. All social programs should be abolished. Taxes should be as low as possible. But that doesn't mean the spending is fraud.

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– MLGS 5 points 153 days ago +5 / -0

I don't have to prove it to you. You already know it. I have no idea how I would prove it to somebody who could be shown the daycares or USAID or a dozen other stories and still argue with the idea that there is massive, systemic fraud everywhere in the US.

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– CaptainTrouble 1 point 153 days ago +1 / -0

I just have a problem with suggesting there's $1.5t in fraud and all we have to do is get rid of the fraud then we can abolish taxes. This is mathematically incorrect and fairly naive.

There is fraud but it's not $1.5t worth. To abolish taxes, we'd need to get rid of government spending that wasn't fraud.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 153 days ago +3 / -0

prove

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Who gives a shit?! Nothing will ever be done about it, even if you hog tied every single NPC on Earth and held them at gunpoint to force them to read the documents proving it. They don’t give a shit. They never will.

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