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[AikiA] The Fifth Day of Christmas: Five Golden Rings (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 158 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 158 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +54 / -0
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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

Which AI did you use?

Yes the internet enables greater reach and that's why I use it. But like nuclear weapons it would be better if none of us had it. My message is that we should collectively agree to abandon these technologies that are bad for us all but we are incentivized to use by everyone else using them. Of course we can't expect everyone to do that at once, but it can start with parallel societies that do it and grow.

In addition to the problems I mentioned greater reach is also unnatural and most of us aren't disciplined enough to handle it. Fame messes people up and so even does great reach with anonymity. This is a problem with all media online and offline, not just social media. Furthermore because a single writing/recording can be viewed/heard millions of times, this results in most people consuming much more input than the output they produce, but our output is supposed to be close to our input.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

Which AI did you use?

I mostly use a Japanese company's web client.

Yes the internet enables greater reach and that's why I use it. But like nuclear weapons it would be better if none of us had it. My message is that we should collectively agree to abandon these technologies that are bad for us all but we are incentivized to use by everyone else using them. Of course we can't expect everyone to do that at once, but it can start with parallel societies that do it and grow.

Yet every significant country has nuclear weapons, thus if you want to do anything significant it will involve the internet at some point. Otherwise you'll be left behind.

I agree that increasing offline activity is a good idea, but the internet is simply very good for certain creative applications.

Bottom line, you are discussing something on the internet and that's about as suitable a purpose as sharing and creating artwork.

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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

But we don't have to keep this system where it's constantly "Use this new thing you may not agree with or be replaced - oh and now you have no advantage over others with less skills and experience". Who actually wants that? Things only got that way because we didn't see the problems clearly ahead of time and failed to prevent all these bad technologies and bad practices. But we can undo all the mistakes if enough people want to.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

But we don't have to keep this system where it's constantly "Use this new thing you may not agree with or be replaced - oh and now you have no advantage over others with less skills and experience". Who actually wants that?

That could be a true generalization, or false, depending on what technology you're talking about.

With AI art, I believe that statement is true - an artist probably doesn't need to incorporate AI in their workflow to succeed. AI's advantage is for the non-artist, the person who isn't actually skilled at the mechanical tasks of visual art. From that perspective, your choice is either to create or not to create.

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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

When is it not true? That's how it was for the Luddite weavers, that's how it was for carriage drivers, that's how it was for animators, and that's how it's turning out for coders, writers and artists today. Eventually there becomes no point in doing anything for yourself because a machine can do it better. Thus there's no point in learning anything either. Not much point in living either except to experience emotions and that will be conveniently facilitated by brain stimulation rather than actually doing things.

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