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[AikiA] The Fifth Day of Christmas: Five Golden Rings (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 157 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 157 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +54 / -0
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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

But we don't have to keep this system where it's constantly "Use this new thing you may not agree with or be replaced - oh and now you have no advantage over others with less skills and experience". Who actually wants that? Things only got that way because we didn't see the problems clearly ahead of time and failed to prevent all these bad technologies and bad practices. But we can undo all the mistakes if enough people want to.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

But we don't have to keep this system where it's constantly "Use this new thing you may not agree with or be replaced - oh and now you have no advantage over others with less skills and experience". Who actually wants that?

That could be a true generalization, or false, depending on what technology you're talking about.

With AI art, I believe that statement is true - an artist probably doesn't need to incorporate AI in their workflow to succeed. AI's advantage is for the non-artist, the person who isn't actually skilled at the mechanical tasks of visual art. From that perspective, your choice is either to create or not to create.

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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

When is it not true? That's how it was for the Luddite weavers, that's how it was for carriage drivers, that's how it was for animators, and that's how it's turning out for coders, writers and artists today. Eventually there becomes no point in doing anything for yourself because a machine can do it better. Thus there's no point in learning anything either. Not much point in living either except to experience emotions and that will be conveniently facilitated by brain stimulation rather than actually doing things.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

I'm a little confused, you just argued we don't have to "use this new thing or be replaced," but now you're saying "eventually a machine can do anything better." Which is it?

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– Zyxl 1 point 156 days ago +1 / -0

I'm saying in the type of society we have we are forced to use new tech or be replaced. In this type of society it is inevitable (if we somehow don't cause a near-extinction event first) that machines will come to do everything and humans won't have anything productive to do, just ways to pass time and experience emotions. But we could change to a different type of society that values human social wellbeing over productive efficiency and economics. By stopping certain types of technological progress we would prevent all the bad outcomes that are inevitable consequences of our current system.

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