The one I was talking about specifically was outskirts of Oklahoma City in a generally nice area, but I do suspect there's more blacks in the cheap development.
I'm not sure how jobs and romance is there. Jobs probably as good as anywhere else that size. Romance is a really tricky one just because that's either turned into online or "I need to go get some bitches at da club and sheet." A lot of the people I know in cheaper parts of the country (even smaller towns) grew up there. No one will move there and particularly for a young person from a big city, they'd just bitch about it the whole time anyway because they have no understanding of that lifestyle. It's very hard to get into the closed society of a small town if you hate everything about everyone there.
I tried the move to a small town thing. I had a good job making close to $150k and bought a 3 bedroom /w attached garage house for $250k. Really nice yard.
I moved within 1.5 years because it was impossible to make friends or meet people. No one went out. Everyone knew everyone already. All the smartest people from the town moved to the big city for university when they graduated high school then never came back. Everyone else was already married or was a single mother. I got the sense I wasn't welcome and was distrusted. A couple people told me something to the effect of: "what's wrong with you moving here?" because in their mind, anyone of quality wouldn't be stuck in their town. I ended up in 3 bar fights within a year just because the locals didn't like me because I stuck out like a well-to-do city guy and they were all depressed that they were too stupid to get out of their shit town and were stuck there for life.
Most young people are in bigger centers with high costs of living because these areas are superior, that's why the cost of living is so high there (generally).
Yeah I can't argue, it's an uphill climb. I live in one but I'm an hour from the city and I keep to myself. People around know me but that's about it. I'm also not young and trying to build a life. That would be difficult. I don't stick out that much either, but I've got enough country credentials from the past to shut any of that up.
I do think there's still some places (like the aforementioned OKC) that could work, but they are few and far between.
I've very much taken the approach that was perhaps different from my past mindset is to get to the family building stuff early and young. The ones you want aren't waiting around and by the time you're 30 in the big city women have gone from "mother of your children" to "getting some pussy". Maybe I'm right or wrong on that, hell I don't know. I've long since moved on.
I'm going to be single the rest of my life. I think the truth of that is that is if you haven't found someone by 25yo (on average), it's game over. It's worse in smaller areas though. If you didn't go to high school there, you basically have 0 shot. Any woman who'd make a pass on you as a newcomer has a reason for being single and it won't be a good one. But the fact of the matter is there hardly are any to begin with.
The thing is, I, like most guys, still enjoy the idea of fucking girls from time to time without traveling to Thailand or Columbia and you have a much higher chance of that in the bigger cities. Some guys don't care and perhaps the life of solitude in the smaller, cheaper areas suits them but it's definitely not for everyone and hardly a solution for many.
Give every man a 100 pound, hot, obedient, 20yo sex goddess who'll follow them around anywhere they move to and you'd probably find a lot more people trying the cheaper areas to live but they're very boring and depressing to most people because of how solitary of a lifestyle they are. There's no "hope" in these areas. You exist to go to work, pay your taxes and never get anything you want out of life. That's what you're admitting to yourself when you go there. Might as well commit suicide (for some) at that point.
Yeah I'm definitely the latter life of solitude category. I've always been that way though, but it's set in a lot more in the 40s. Just a personality trait. I'm hardly a hermit though, I have friends, family, business acquaintances, etc. Just not a woman.
I don't know how I'd do as an outgoing social person in such a place and I struggle to relate to that at times anyway. It's very much a hindsight is 20/20 thing but all my advice to the younger people I know is figure it out early. That's counter to what almost everyone else tells them with the whole figure your life out and go to college and shit before you even think about it, but I've never been one to go with the popular train of thought anyway.
The one I was talking about specifically was outskirts of Oklahoma City in a generally nice area, but I do suspect there's more blacks in the cheap development.
I'm not sure how jobs and romance is there. Jobs probably as good as anywhere else that size. Romance is a really tricky one just because that's either turned into online or "I need to go get some bitches at da club and sheet." A lot of the people I know in cheaper parts of the country (even smaller towns) grew up there. No one will move there and particularly for a young person from a big city, they'd just bitch about it the whole time anyway because they have no understanding of that lifestyle. It's very hard to get into the closed society of a small town if you hate everything about everyone there.
I tried the move to a small town thing. I had a good job making close to $150k and bought a 3 bedroom /w attached garage house for $250k. Really nice yard.
I moved within 1.5 years because it was impossible to make friends or meet people. No one went out. Everyone knew everyone already. All the smartest people from the town moved to the big city for university when they graduated high school then never came back. Everyone else was already married or was a single mother. I got the sense I wasn't welcome and was distrusted. A couple people told me something to the effect of: "what's wrong with you moving here?" because in their mind, anyone of quality wouldn't be stuck in their town. I ended up in 3 bar fights within a year just because the locals didn't like me because I stuck out like a well-to-do city guy and they were all depressed that they were too stupid to get out of their shit town and were stuck there for life.
Most young people are in bigger centers with high costs of living because these areas are superior, that's why the cost of living is so high there (generally).
Yeah I can't argue, it's an uphill climb. I live in one but I'm an hour from the city and I keep to myself. People around know me but that's about it. I'm also not young and trying to build a life. That would be difficult. I don't stick out that much either, but I've got enough country credentials from the past to shut any of that up.
I do think there's still some places (like the aforementioned OKC) that could work, but they are few and far between.
I've very much taken the approach that was perhaps different from my past mindset is to get to the family building stuff early and young. The ones you want aren't waiting around and by the time you're 30 in the big city women have gone from "mother of your children" to "getting some pussy". Maybe I'm right or wrong on that, hell I don't know. I've long since moved on.
I'm going to be single the rest of my life. I think the truth of that is that is if you haven't found someone by 25yo (on average), it's game over. It's worse in smaller areas though. If you didn't go to high school there, you basically have 0 shot. Any woman who'd make a pass on you as a newcomer has a reason for being single and it won't be a good one. But the fact of the matter is there hardly are any to begin with.
The thing is, I, like most guys, still enjoy the idea of fucking girls from time to time without traveling to Thailand or Columbia and you have a much higher chance of that in the bigger cities. Some guys don't care and perhaps the life of solitude in the smaller, cheaper areas suits them but it's definitely not for everyone and hardly a solution for many.
Give every man a 100 pound, hot, obedient, 20yo sex goddess who'll follow them around anywhere they move to and you'd probably find a lot more people trying the cheaper areas to live but they're very boring and depressing to most people because of how solitary of a lifestyle they are. There's no "hope" in these areas. You exist to go to work, pay your taxes and never get anything you want out of life. That's what you're admitting to yourself when you go there. Might as well commit suicide (for some) at that point.
Yeah I'm definitely the latter life of solitude category. I've always been that way though, but it's set in a lot more in the 40s. Just a personality trait. I'm hardly a hermit though, I have friends, family, business acquaintances, etc. Just not a woman.
I don't know how I'd do as an outgoing social person in such a place and I struggle to relate to that at times anyway. It's very much a hindsight is 20/20 thing but all my advice to the younger people I know is figure it out early. That's counter to what almost everyone else tells them with the whole figure your life out and go to college and shit before you even think about it, but I've never been one to go with the popular train of thought anyway.