I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not fedposting or encouraging anyone to do anything. This is purely a philosophical musing.
That said, you must understand that we are being invaded. Not in the hyperbolic "oh no, lots of new people have joined the server" sense, but in the very real and very literal "foreign barbarians are here to take your land, your riches, and your women" sense.
These people do not hold western values, because they consider things such as compassion and all the little things that we do that allows you to leave your stuff unattended for a few minutes outside to be weakness and stupidity.
These people do not hold to our behavioral norms, and in fact their norms are often our evils.
These people are massively tribalistic, and love each other above all others, while hating us as the outsiders.
And, finally, these people are both entirely unwilling to leave and entirely confident using every type of force, be it social, governmental, or regular violence, to get their way.
Given all these factors, we are, as a civilization, facing an existential threat, and the time for peacefully but firmly requesting that the invaders leave was past more than a decade ago. The gates are nailed open, the traitors gloat as they welcome band after band of enemy combatants, and the barbsrians have begun establishing permanent beachheads within our territories.
Now is the time to muster the legions and restore the empire. Now is the time to remind the senate and the emperor why the citizens have a voice that must be listened to.
To do anything else is to stand there with our fiddle and watch the merry flames dance higher.
Given all these factors, we are, as a civilization, facing an existential threat, and the time for peacefully but firmly requesting that the invaders leave was past more than a decade ago. The gates are nailed open, the traitors gloat as they welcome band after band of enemy combatants
What you are saying here is that deportation hasn't even been tried. Which it hasn't been.
So why not try that rather than using the most drastic measure as a first rather than a last resort? It's good politics even if you don't care about the morality.
You suggest a moderate approach to an immoderate problem. You do not put a bandage on a severed artery. You do not use a fire extinguisher to a fully involved house fire. You do not politely ask the armed robber to leave your home or face consequences.
There is absolutely, certainly a time and a place for a moderate solution, and it is certainly generally a good idea to try the moderate solution first, but once a situation degenerates past a certain point, the moderate solution is off the table.
And we here in America, where rioters attack ICE agents and buildings (hello, Portland), where armies of illegal march through major cities in protest to immigration enforcement under the protection of local PDs (hello, Chicago), where major cities have had the political and enforcement suborned and openly declaring that they serve foreign interests first (hello, Minneapolis, Deerborn, and NYC), are well, well past the point of moderate response.
You suggest a moderate approach to an immoderate problem. You do not put a bandage on a severed artery. You do not use a fire extinguisher to a fully involved house fire. You do not politely ask the armed robber to leave your home or face consequences.
Not quite. I suggest an approach that is sufficient to solve the issue. You have not explained why it would not solve the issue, and why you actually do need to kill them.
And we here in America, where rioters attack ICE agents and buildings (hello, Portland), where armies of illegal march through major cities in protest to immigration enforcement under the protection of local PDs (hello, Chicago), where major cities have had the political and enforcement suborned and openly declaring that they serve foreign interests first (hello, Minneapolis, Deerborn, and NYC), are well, well past the point of moderate response.
If you can't even get what you call the moderate solution, what makes you think that you would be able to get mass murder? It just makes no sense. Furthermore, ICE is only deporting illegals.
There is a great need to kill people, AoV.
I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not fedposting or encouraging anyone to do anything. This is purely a philosophical musing.
That said, you must understand that we are being invaded. Not in the hyperbolic "oh no, lots of new people have joined the server" sense, but in the very real and very literal "foreign barbarians are here to take your land, your riches, and your women" sense.
These people do not hold western values, because they consider things such as compassion and all the little things that we do that allows you to leave your stuff unattended for a few minutes outside to be weakness and stupidity.
These people do not hold to our behavioral norms, and in fact their norms are often our evils.
These people are massively tribalistic, and love each other above all others, while hating us as the outsiders.
And, finally, these people are both entirely unwilling to leave and entirely confident using every type of force, be it social, governmental, or regular violence, to get their way.
Given all these factors, we are, as a civilization, facing an existential threat, and the time for peacefully but firmly requesting that the invaders leave was past more than a decade ago. The gates are nailed open, the traitors gloat as they welcome band after band of enemy combatants, and the barbsrians have begun establishing permanent beachheads within our territories.
Now is the time to muster the legions and restore the empire. Now is the time to remind the senate and the emperor why the citizens have a voice that must be listened to.
To do anything else is to stand there with our fiddle and watch the merry flames dance higher.
What you are saying here is that deportation hasn't even been tried. Which it hasn't been.
So why not try that rather than using the most drastic measure as a first rather than a last resort? It's good politics even if you don't care about the morality.
You suggest a moderate approach to an immoderate problem. You do not put a bandage on a severed artery. You do not use a fire extinguisher to a fully involved house fire. You do not politely ask the armed robber to leave your home or face consequences.
There is absolutely, certainly a time and a place for a moderate solution, and it is certainly generally a good idea to try the moderate solution first, but once a situation degenerates past a certain point, the moderate solution is off the table.
And we here in America, where rioters attack ICE agents and buildings (hello, Portland), where armies of illegal march through major cities in protest to immigration enforcement under the protection of local PDs (hello, Chicago), where major cities have had the political and enforcement suborned and openly declaring that they serve foreign interests first (hello, Minneapolis, Deerborn, and NYC), are well, well past the point of moderate response.
Not quite. I suggest an approach that is sufficient to solve the issue. You have not explained why it would not solve the issue, and why you actually do need to kill them.
If you can't even get what you call the moderate solution, what makes you think that you would be able to get mass murder? It just makes no sense. Furthermore, ICE is only deporting illegals.