Just the past few months? They devolved into Ukraine War shilling years ago.
They've been 100% onboard the war machine for years. I tried giving Kisin some slack early on because he had a semi-personal stake in the Russia/Ukraine border dispute, but it got too intolerable. Made absolutely everything else they said suspect
I used to listen to nearly every one of their interviews; they became intolerable and now I haven't listened to them in years. Same with people like Rubin and Shapiro. Now it's just a deluge of people destroying their credibility over Israel.
Just the past few months? They devolved into Ukraine War shilling years ago.
Right, I remember their first reaction, which was "is the US going to defend Estonia? No. So Russia is going to take it. NATO is dead". That said, the guy was Soviet-born and many of his ilk have a big grudge against their own country, and it made up a small part of their content, so I gave them a pass for that.
Now it's basically all they're producing. How do you go from covering a large number of topics to being all Israel all the time? I think they're being bribed. Literally no one went from being ambivalent or pretend-ambivalent to hard-core pro-Israel over the past few years.
I used to listen to nearly every one of their interviews; they became intolerable and now I haven't listened to them in years.
Same for me, I even viewed some of their videos live. But if you haven't listened for years, you probably have no idea how bad it is now. This is 100x the shilling they did for fake Ukraine.
Same with people like Rubin and Shapiro. Now it's just a deluge of people destroying their credibility over Israel.
Not much of a loss. Rubin and Shapiro haven't had an interesting thought for years. And I say that as a former Daily Wire subscriber.
I listened to Shapiro around 2017-18 because I liked having some Trump-critical-but-not-completely-insane takes (really fucking difficult to find, actually). I gave up on him because he just came off as insufferably bad-faith in too many of his criticisms.
Now that you mention it, it's true that he hasn't always been terrible. In the aftermath of the Covington Kids, he sounded very angry and called out the media for hating Christians and white people.
Just the past few months? They devolved into Ukraine War shilling years ago.
They've been 100% onboard the war machine for years. I tried giving Kisin some slack early on because he had a semi-personal stake in the Russia/Ukraine border dispute, but it got too intolerable. Made absolutely everything else they said suspect
I used to listen to nearly every one of their interviews; they became intolerable and now I haven't listened to them in years. Same with people like Rubin and Shapiro. Now it's just a deluge of people destroying their credibility over Israel.
Right, I remember their first reaction, which was "is the US going to defend Estonia? No. So Russia is going to take it. NATO is dead". That said, the guy was Soviet-born and many of his ilk have a big grudge against their own country, and it made up a small part of their content, so I gave them a pass for that.
Now it's basically all they're producing. How do you go from covering a large number of topics to being all Israel all the time? I think they're being bribed. Literally no one went from being ambivalent or pretend-ambivalent to hard-core pro-Israel over the past few years.
Same for me, I even viewed some of their videos live. But if you haven't listened for years, you probably have no idea how bad it is now. This is 100x the shilling they did for fake Ukraine.
Not much of a loss. Rubin and Shapiro haven't had an interesting thought for years. And I say that as a former Daily Wire subscriber.
I listened to Shapiro around 2017-18 because I liked having some Trump-critical-but-not-completely-insane takes (really fucking difficult to find, actually). I gave up on him because he just came off as insufferably bad-faith in too many of his criticisms.
Now that you mention it, it's true that he hasn't always been terrible. In the aftermath of the Covington Kids, he sounded very angry and called out the media for hating Christians and white people.