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The dispensationalist cries out in pain as she kills your babies. (i.imgur.com)
posted 221 days ago by AntonioOfVenice 221 days ago by AntonioOfVenice +69 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 7 points 220 days ago +7 / -0

This war has the fewest civilian casualties than any comparable conflict in history. Considering that Hamas used civilians as human shields & provided exactly 0.0 bomb shelters for their population, it is hard to imagine fewer lost.

The only relevant yardstick is the postwar period because all major wars after WWII were fought under the "rules-based international order" established by the winners.

Either of the battles for Fallujah in Iraq II is a much more relevant comparison since that was modern urban combat where as many civilians were evacuated as possible. In Gaza's case, Israel herded civilians into refugee camps. Fallujah's area is also slightly bigger than Gaza.

At the end of the second battle of Fallujah 800 civilians by the highest estimate were killed out of 30,000-90,000 left in the city. At worst that's 2.7%, more likely 1.5% or less. Meanwhile, Israel has killed at least the 70,000 reported up to now. If the entire civilian population stayed in place and didn't evacuate that's already higher than 3%. But we know that most of them have displaced to refugee camps, so the ratio of the actual battle is ridiculously higher. There are also thousands more that are buried under rubble.

Fallujah was fought with extreme restraint. Meanwhile Israel has dropped multiple times the energy of the Hiroshima bomb on Gaza in the form of conventional explosives.

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– 5Cats 1 point 219 days ago +1 / -0

70K includes Hamas soldiers and is solely based on Hamas's reports. You are aware of that, yes?
Their early reports were proven fraudulent & they revised them downwards, remember?

Hiroshima was a very small A-bomb. Check how many bombs were dropped on Cambodia, and they weren't even at war! Operation Menu alone dropped over 100K tons in 6 missions.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 219 days ago +2 / -0

70K includes Hamas soldiers and is solely based on Hamas's reports. You are aware of that, yes?

I don't expect the death toll to revise under 70k by anyone's count, considering the devastation is equivalent to Hiroshima.

Hiroshima was a very small A-bomb. Check how many bombs were dropped on Cambodia, and they weren't even at war! Operation Menu alone dropped over 100K tons in 6 missions.

Cambodia is mostly jungle. Irrelevant.

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– 5Cats 1 point 219 days ago +1 / -0

The bombs in Cambodia still killed a lot of people, mostly not the ones they wanted to kill. They continue to kill to this day as unexploded ordinance is still out there in large numbers.

The IDF uses precision weapons. They can hit a single car if they want to. Carpet bombing is random, most bombs fall on nothing, that's why they used so many of them back in the day. So the odds of IDF weapons missing and killing civilians is very low, especially since they warn people in advance almost all the time.

The actual ratio of soldiers to civilians in the Hamas numbers is completely unknown. They were just "making it up" until caught, literally inventing numbers! I doubt their current numbers are accurate either, but at least not flagrantly fake.

So subtracting the soldiers from the total losses may never be possible. Also: civilians killed BY Hamas are added to it too. Keep that in mind, eh?

I think they took the "500 killed in the hospital bombing" off the total? idk for sure. (It was an errant rocket, if any people got killed it was because they were in the parking lot cheering as the rockets went overhead on the way to Israel, eh?)

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 219 days ago +2 / -0

The bombs in Cambodia still killed a lot of people, mostly not the ones they wanted to kill. They continue to kill to this day as unexploded ordinance is still out there in large numbers.

The total combined civilian population in the area was under 5,000 people.................... completely irrelevant comparison.

The IDF uses precision weapons. They can hit a single car if they want to. Carpet bombing is random, most bombs fall on nothing, that's why they used so many of them back in the day. So the odds of IDF weapons missing and killing civilians is very low, especially since they warn people in advance almost all the time.

Dude, we can see what Gaza looks like. There's barely a single building standing. They are not using "precision weapons" if you even know what they are, or what their inventory of those weapons is.

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