Actually yes, they are. The Soviets liked to claim that the Wehrmacht went around pillaging, raping and murdering in Eastern Europe. And that's a claim still made to this day. Unlike blaming Germany for the Katyn massacre.
The Germans were certainly going on a rampage in Eastern Europe, but mass rapes were not frequent - or at least much more rare than of the Soviet army directed against Germans... and even Hungarians and Russian prisoners.
The allies helped the Soviets cover up the Katyn massacre. Told the Polish government in exile to shut up about it or lose support. With friends like these...
Poor SupremeReader of blessed memory used to get very upset when I reminded him of this fact.
The Germans were certainly going on a rampage in Eastern Europe
No, they weren't. If they had been Germany would have never attracted hundreds of thousands Eastern European volunteers. Most Eastern Europe was glad to get rid of the Soviet Union. Because the Red Army actually did go on a rampage everywhere. Not just in Germany proper.
Did members of the German armed forces commit war crimes? Of course. That's pretty much inevitable in a lengthy war. But unlike the good guys the Germans actually punished the perpetrators.
You have never heard of the Einsatzgruppen? How interesting.
If they had been Germany would have never attracted hundreds of thousands Eastern European volunteers
And they lost the sympathy of nearly all of those whom they had in the bag (like so called Ukrainians) because of their brutality. That's why nearly all Little Russians fought for the Stalin who had so recently brutalized them.
Because the Red Army actually did go on a rampage everywhere. Not just in Germany proper.
Thank you, that's what I just said.
Did members of the German armed forces commit war crimes? Of course. That's pretty much inevitable in a lengthy war. But unlike the good guys the Germans actually punished the perpetrators.
OK, can you point me to the punishment the people who carried out Babi Jar got?
Germany aren't accused of committing mass rape, but this is what happened to them.
Actually yes, they are. The Soviets liked to claim that the Wehrmacht went around pillaging, raping and murdering in Eastern Europe. And that's a claim still made to this day. Unlike blaming Germany for the Katyn massacre.
The Germans were certainly going on a rampage in Eastern Europe, but mass rapes were not frequent - or at least much more rare than of the Soviet army directed against Germans... and even Hungarians and Russian prisoners.
The allies helped the Soviets cover up the Katyn massacre. Told the Polish government in exile to shut up about it or lose support. With friends like these...
Poor SupremeReader of blessed memory used to get very upset when I reminded him of this fact.
No, they weren't. If they had been Germany would have never attracted hundreds of thousands Eastern European volunteers. Most Eastern Europe was glad to get rid of the Soviet Union. Because the Red Army actually did go on a rampage everywhere. Not just in Germany proper.
Did members of the German armed forces commit war crimes? Of course. That's pretty much inevitable in a lengthy war. But unlike the good guys the Germans actually punished the perpetrators.
You have never heard of the Einsatzgruppen? How interesting.
And they lost the sympathy of nearly all of those whom they had in the bag (like so called Ukrainians) because of their brutality. That's why nearly all Little Russians fought for the Stalin who had so recently brutalized them.
Thank you, that's what I just said.
OK, can you point me to the punishment the people who carried out Babi Jar got?
And then took away all support and gave Stalin their whole country to enslave anyway.