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What you call ordinary force is potentially lethal force. People have been knocked down by lucky hits and cracked their skulls on the pavement. Luckily, most of us don't have to defend ourselves by UK rules like you seem to believe.
No, what I call ordinary force is ordinary force. IF YOU CAN ARTICULATE THAT IT IS REASONABLE TO ASSERT THAT THE FORCE BEING USED AGAINST YOU CAN CAUSE YOU GREVIOUS BODILY HARM then it's no longer ordinary force.
Most single punches are considered ordinary force. Most, and this is all context dependent.
This is American law. Moreover, it's Western law.
This is not a debate, nor an argument here.
YELLING IN ALL CAPS MAKES MY POINT CORRECT
Dude, unless you're being assaulted by a spindly old fogie in a wheelchair or a child, any physical assault can be reasonably believed to have the potential for grievous bodily harm. People have died from single punches, without any roided out freaks involved.
I'm not trying to argue the correctness, you're not understanding me.
I'm aware that people could die from a punch. You can't argue that a punch usually, let alone always, represents grievous bodily harm. Unless there are obvious aggravating circumstances (like 40 punches to the head, you're passing out, you're an elderly woman) it's going to be considered ordinary force.
Here, maybe someone else saying the same thing will make more sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_KDTA46IiA&rco=1
ASP goes over a fist fight that starts out as ordinary force, then evolves into lethal force, due to how many strikes to the head the Footlocker employee suffered. No, shooting the guy initially is illegal, but after he was being pummeled so many times, it became legal because the force against him became lethal force.
That was never the argument. Being in a situation where a reasonable person would believe there's a risk of such is enough to defend yourself.