Except that won't even work for cropping or re-encoding. You need image recognition. Simpler matching algorithms work for simple image manipulations, but in the age of AI image-to-image, you need an AI image classifier and that's going to have false positives so here we are.
You know how they sell those "anti AI" kits for people? Some face paint and some unusual accessories is all it takes to completely fuckup "AI detection."
So. How sure are you that these same techniques wouldn't be used by the pornographers? I don't care about the image. I want the CHILD ABUSE TO STOP. This "AI scanning" idea is fucking worthless. It's backwards. I can't believe people here would toy with the idea even for a second.
Are you sure the people deploying these systems don't leak their information to those could take advantage of it like this?
It's like pretending "master locks" are a solution to theft. It's wholly compromised by retardation. That's the "AI marketing" trick though. Get you to turn off you brain and accept their claims without challenge.
Red team everything or they will lie to you always.
I've only seen this done as some kind of performance art and it's unclear if it would even work. Seems reasonable that it could mess up systems designed for grainy security cam footage, but who knows. More advanced systems use gait analysis and thermal imaging.
> I don't care about the image. I want the CHILD ABUSE TO STOP
Ok please fill in step 2:
Let people post CP
???
Child abuse stops
>One fucking pixel
This is from 2019 and even at the time, required access to the internal workings of the neural network. It's a neat trick but it was never something that could be deployed and it won't even work on newer image classifiers.
Sure locks can be picked or cut off, but we still put locks on things, because it raises the barrier. Not everyone is a lock picking lawyer. We still do hash matching on images because there are some dumbasses who will repost CP with known hashes.
Some people misuse or overly trust locks, that doesn't mean that locks do nothing. An AI classifier should be used as part of a system, not a be-all end-all. It's a tool, that like any tool, can be misused.
DO NOT LET people post CP. Criminally charge them for it. Put them in jail immediately. The police should be doing this.
Turn the AI off. It cannot help you or anyone with this problem.
Child abuse is less than it is now.
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Was that so hard you couldn't do it yourself? I don't have the answer. One probably doesn't exist. I know the answer is NOT allowing corporations with AIs to pretend to "solve" the problem with this bullshit. It just buries it under a layer of false security.
I care about the kids. Everything else is a fucking distraction.
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And yes. It does require knowledge of the "neural network." You know they have a file format for these and they're not "impossible to analyze."
Let me ask you a question. Are there billionaire child molesters? What's your security model then? Wake up.
>Hash checks have been used for years
Except that won't even work for cropping or re-encoding. You need image recognition. Simpler matching algorithms work for simple image manipulations, but in the age of AI image-to-image, you need an AI image classifier and that's going to have false positives so here we are.
You know how they sell those "anti AI" kits for people? Some face paint and some unusual accessories is all it takes to completely fuckup "AI detection."
So. How sure are you that these same techniques wouldn't be used by the pornographers? I don't care about the image. I want the CHILD ABUSE TO STOP. This "AI scanning" idea is fucking worthless. It's backwards. I can't believe people here would toy with the idea even for a second.
One fucking pixel is all it takes. https://www.kaggle.com/discussions/general/562475
Are you sure the people deploying these systems don't leak their information to those could take advantage of it like this?
It's like pretending "master locks" are a solution to theft. It's wholly compromised by retardation. That's the "AI marketing" trick though. Get you to turn off you brain and accept their claims without challenge.
Red team everything or they will lie to you always.
>face paint
I've only seen this done as some kind of performance art and it's unclear if it would even work. Seems reasonable that it could mess up systems designed for grainy security cam footage, but who knows. More advanced systems use gait analysis and thermal imaging.
> I don't care about the image. I want the CHILD ABUSE TO STOP
Ok please fill in step 2:
Let people post CP
???
Child abuse stops
>One fucking pixel
This is from 2019 and even at the time, required access to the internal workings of the neural network. It's a neat trick but it was never something that could be deployed and it won't even work on newer image classifiers.
Sure locks can be picked or cut off, but we still put locks on things, because it raises the barrier. Not everyone is a lock picking lawyer. We still do hash matching on images because there are some dumbasses who will repost CP with known hashes.
Some people misuse or overly trust locks, that doesn't mean that locks do nothing. An AI classifier should be used as part of a system, not a be-all end-all. It's a tool, that like any tool, can be misused.
DO NOT LET people post CP. Criminally charge them for it. Put them in jail immediately. The police should be doing this.
Turn the AI off. It cannot help you or anyone with this problem.
Child abuse is less than it is now.
--
Was that so hard you couldn't do it yourself? I don't have the answer. One probably doesn't exist. I know the answer is NOT allowing corporations with AIs to pretend to "solve" the problem with this bullshit. It just buries it under a layer of false security.
I care about the kids. Everything else is a fucking distraction.
--
And yes. It does require knowledge of the "neural network." You know they have a file format for these and they're not "impossible to analyze."
Let me ask you a question. Are there billionaire child molesters? What's your security model then? Wake up.