The service culture fell apart in America. In my view the waiters and waitresses just suck now. They don't do the job, they don't go above the basic demands of the job, and they don't seem to care if you want to come back or not. This was not the norm 40 years ago and it wouldn't have been tolerated. Even fucking Pizza Hut would give you half decent table service in the 80s.
I only eat at certain family run restaurants now. The small business culture is next. Support them while you can.
The service culture fell apart in America because we were never meant to be a service based economy, most of those jobs were traditionally meant for young adults who hadn’t yet found a decent career that would earn them enough to buy a house, a decent car, afford annual vacations, enough to raise a family, afford health insurance and still be able to save for a retirement. Now we are looking at 50+% of the workforce who is barely scraping by with some garbage service industry job, even higher percentage than that if we remove boomer aged workers from the equation…..most people under 45 are frustrated, and while they should just demand a higher wage from their employer, they know there’s a chance they’ll lose what little income they have if they do that, leading to an even worse position than they were in….and thanks to mass immigration, and widespread anti-White hiring practices (for White males especially), that job search could take precious time they don’t have before homelessness becomes a real possibility, so they look to the customer to help make a difference…..I get it, it’s wrong to expect the customers to make a difference in their lives, especially when the majority of people under under 45 are struggling to make ends meet just like their server…..as for boomers, the generation who decimated our economy in the name of maximizing profits, who are still living more than comfortably in a majority of cases, they have no right to whine about this issue since they’re responsible for creating it in the first place.
who are still living more than comfortably in a majority of cases, they have no right to whine about this issue, younger folks do.
They've been trained to think the younger generation is entitled and simply isn't willing to work as hard as they did. They can see White genocide but they're also doing the calculus and realizing their 401k will probably sail them into the grave before they have to personally confront it.
I love my mother. This is one point we absolutely do not agree on. Fox news has given her all the justification she needs. Her feet are nailed to the floor. She literally said "...as long as I'm comfortable I kind of don't care." :(
I'm still not sure how to process that or incorporate it moving forward. Anyways.. completely agree with everything you said.
Does she have grandchildren? Not to dog on your mother but what a selfish shitty view. I know boomers can be like that, but usually they at least keep it to themselves and dont explicitly voice it.
What are you even talking about? Have you looked at the home ownership graph by age group? Nearly 80% of Boomers own at least one house, and roughly 40% of the houses in the U.S. are in their control, the rest are owned by investment bankers like BlackRock or they’re owned by import migrant groups because they get all sorts of help from the system to ensure they own a house and have a decent job. As for the majority of the White demographic outside of the boomer demographic, homeownership os completely out of the equation while rent skyrockets throughout the country, so they get to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in their life and have nothing to show for it, miss those rent payments because this j’wd exonomy has rigged the system against Whites and it’s time to find out what being homeless is all about. That’s poverty
Meh I think its were your living at. Living in a mainstream metro somewhere, yeah this prolly the norm.
Canada, lmao is fucking retarded. People here dont refill your drinks or even talk to you other than getting your order and dropping off the bill, then they act like they did something to earn a tip, they dont earn it, they just expect it.
Maybe its changed in the last 15 years, but when I was still living in ohio, eating out was a pleasant experience. Me and my partner had a mexican place we liked to go to (ran by actual mexicans gasp). Or even somewhere generic like bob evans. And everyone would small talk and theyd refill your glass everytime it emptied. They didnt expect tips, but they certainly earned them. Man, I just really miss ohio.
You could easily start up a conversation with some rando standing on the corner waiting at the bus stop or whatever. Even in columbus. Cant do that in a place like halifax, everyone is just so cold. Their either staring into their phones or looking at the ground. No one wants to even look at each other, let alone talk to each other. I think I was randomly called faggot just walking down the street here more in 3 years than the 30 years I lived in ohio lmao.
My god its fucking bad in canada, people expect tips for just picking up a order at a drive through, and the food is always so fucking expensive and shitty as fuck, never worth the money.
How'd you end up in canuckistan? As someone still in Ohio, I can say that it definitely doesnt seem to be as bad as most other places. But perhaps not as good as it was when you were here?
The people are mostly good, but service quality definitely varies from place to place. Just gotta tip wisely I guess; positive reinforcement where it is applicable and negative where it is applicable.
But the trends over the last few years leave me very conflicted. As someone who makes solid money and up until now was fairly single, I always had a lot of extra on my hands so I kind of liked tipping because I could reward going above and beyond. But with the entitlement and the increased begging for tips where they arent applicable and with how thoroughly they have become expected given employers account for them in the pay structure, part of me wishes the genie could go back in the bottle.
The only place I happily tip generously anymore is my local sushi joint. Because the quality is good for the price and I am happy and grateful that the owner is operating such a place in my hometown and want it to be successful.
The service culture fell apart in America. In my view the waiters and waitresses just suck now. They don't do the job, they don't go above the basic demands of the job, and they don't seem to care if you want to come back or not. This was not the norm 40 years ago and it wouldn't have been tolerated. Even fucking Pizza Hut would give you half decent table service in the 80s.
I only eat at certain family run restaurants now. The small business culture is next. Support them while you can.
The service culture fell apart in America because we were never meant to be a service based economy, most of those jobs were traditionally meant for young adults who hadn’t yet found a decent career that would earn them enough to buy a house, a decent car, afford annual vacations, enough to raise a family, afford health insurance and still be able to save for a retirement. Now we are looking at 50+% of the workforce who is barely scraping by with some garbage service industry job, even higher percentage than that if we remove boomer aged workers from the equation…..most people under 45 are frustrated, and while they should just demand a higher wage from their employer, they know there’s a chance they’ll lose what little income they have if they do that, leading to an even worse position than they were in….and thanks to mass immigration, and widespread anti-White hiring practices (for White males especially), that job search could take precious time they don’t have before homelessness becomes a real possibility, so they look to the customer to help make a difference…..I get it, it’s wrong to expect the customers to make a difference in their lives, especially when the majority of people under under 45 are struggling to make ends meet just like their server…..as for boomers, the generation who decimated our economy in the name of maximizing profits, who are still living more than comfortably in a majority of cases, they have no right to whine about this issue since they’re responsible for creating it in the first place.
They've been trained to think the younger generation is entitled and simply isn't willing to work as hard as they did. They can see White genocide but they're also doing the calculus and realizing their 401k will probably sail them into the grave before they have to personally confront it.
I love my mother. This is one point we absolutely do not agree on. Fox news has given her all the justification she needs. Her feet are nailed to the floor. She literally said "...as long as I'm comfortable I kind of don't care." :(
I'm still not sure how to process that or incorporate it moving forward. Anyways.. completely agree with everything you said.
Does she have grandchildren? Not to dog on your mother but what a selfish shitty view. I know boomers can be like that, but usually they at least keep it to themselves and dont explicitly voice it.
The older they get, the filter comes off.
My Boomer parents are like that too. Push them enough and they will tell you they don’t care and it’s not their problem.
The poverty rate for those 65 and older is only marginally lower that that of those aged 18-64, 10.3% vs 10.5%.
What are you even talking about? Have you looked at the home ownership graph by age group? Nearly 80% of Boomers own at least one house, and roughly 40% of the houses in the U.S. are in their control, the rest are owned by investment bankers like BlackRock or they’re owned by import migrant groups because they get all sorts of help from the system to ensure they own a house and have a decent job. As for the majority of the White demographic outside of the boomer demographic, homeownership os completely out of the equation while rent skyrockets throughout the country, so they get to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in their life and have nothing to show for it, miss those rent payments because this j’wd exonomy has rigged the system against Whites and it’s time to find out what being homeless is all about. That’s poverty
Blame the 30 million illegal invaders for rocketing housing costs, not those who who worked their asses off their entire lives to have a home.
Meh I think its were your living at. Living in a mainstream metro somewhere, yeah this prolly the norm.
Canada, lmao is fucking retarded. People here dont refill your drinks or even talk to you other than getting your order and dropping off the bill, then they act like they did something to earn a tip, they dont earn it, they just expect it.
Maybe its changed in the last 15 years, but when I was still living in ohio, eating out was a pleasant experience. Me and my partner had a mexican place we liked to go to (ran by actual mexicans gasp). Or even somewhere generic like bob evans. And everyone would small talk and theyd refill your glass everytime it emptied. They didnt expect tips, but they certainly earned them. Man, I just really miss ohio.
You could easily start up a conversation with some rando standing on the corner waiting at the bus stop or whatever. Even in columbus. Cant do that in a place like halifax, everyone is just so cold. Their either staring into their phones or looking at the ground. No one wants to even look at each other, let alone talk to each other. I think I was randomly called faggot just walking down the street here more in 3 years than the 30 years I lived in ohio lmao.
My god its fucking bad in canada, people expect tips for just picking up a order at a drive through, and the food is always so fucking expensive and shitty as fuck, never worth the money.
How'd you end up in canuckistan? As someone still in Ohio, I can say that it definitely doesnt seem to be as bad as most other places. But perhaps not as good as it was when you were here?
The people are mostly good, but service quality definitely varies from place to place. Just gotta tip wisely I guess; positive reinforcement where it is applicable and negative where it is applicable.
But the trends over the last few years leave me very conflicted. As someone who makes solid money and up until now was fairly single, I always had a lot of extra on my hands so I kind of liked tipping because I could reward going above and beyond. But with the entitlement and the increased begging for tips where they arent applicable and with how thoroughly they have become expected given employers account for them in the pay structure, part of me wishes the genie could go back in the bottle.
The only place I happily tip generously anymore is my local sushi joint. Because the quality is good for the price and I am happy and grateful that the owner is operating such a place in my hometown and want it to be successful.
It has.