National socialists were the ones who removed the LGBT degeneracy that had been plaging Weimar Germany when no one else would.
Fair, one other point in their favour. But we're talking bare minimum again.
they were also the only ones that ever arrested a Rothschild
The one they ransomed and freed? So they gave him a modern bail slap on the wrist? Didn't actually punish the Rothschilds for their crimes?
the only ones that successfully destroy the communists in their country.
The commies and socialists kill and purge others all the time, no real points for this one either, not when its brother against brother. Stalin doesn't get credit for purging Trotskyism.
Pretending that National Socialism and Communism are two sides of the same coin is a bit disingenuous don't you think? They have similarities, sure, most political ideologies do. But that's about it. They're fundamentally different.
Fair, one other point in their favour. But we're talking bare minimum again.
It's the bare minimum that no one else did. The western world actually pushed the degeneracy on the rest of the world despite being 'anti-Communist' and 'Christian'. The US and Britain are almost single-handedly responsible for unleashing Communism around the world.
Pretending that National Socialism and Communism are two sides of the same coin is a bit disingenuous don't you think?
If it were pretending, sure, it would be disingenuous, by definition of course it would be. But it's not pretending. All the western lefty socialists before the commies got their marching orders from the USSR were full of praise for hitler and mussolini, who got all their ideas from their earlier 'pure' socialism, and they largely hoped to seize the same power he did and do similar things (and in america in particular did, FDR had some of em in his admin, controlling big bits of the new deal)
The US and Britain are almost single-handedly responsible for unleashing Communism around the world.
Let's not let Russia, France and Germany off the hook quite so quickly, they've each got an awful lot to answer for.
They have similarities, sure, most political ideologies do. But that's about it. They're fundamentally different.
In what ways? Bonus points if it's not something that marx, mao, mussolini, stalin or che and castro didn't do/advocate for also.
It's the bare minimum that no one else did. The western world actually pushed the degeneracy on the rest of the world despite being 'anti-Communist' and 'Christian'.
I have to pick between the nazis and the globalist elite?
All the western lefty socialists before the commies got their marching orders from the USSR were full of praise for hitler and mussolini, who got all their ideas from their earlier 'pure' socialism, and they largely hoped to seize the same power he did and do similar things.
That's irrelevant. Most nationalist leaders were also full of praise for Hitler. Mosley is a good example for it. Everything he predicted came true.
Let's not let Russia, France and Germany off the hook quite so quickly, they've each got an awful lot to answer for.
Russia was the first victim of Communism and the Soviet Union was literally saved by the US and less so by England. But yes the Russian people are also at fault for being so scared of the Communists that they let it all happen laying down. But in the end it was the US that ensured that the Soviet Union could become a global super power.
France, sure.
Germany? Well I guess you could blame them for shipping Lenin into Russia to win the war in the East but at the same time Germany actually supported the Whites and if it hadn't been neutered by the Entente the Reds would have most likely lost the civil war. So if you can blame Germany for the Russian revolution is up for debate I guess. But since 45' Germany has been an occupied country, was thoroughly re-educated by the good guys and been irrelevant on the world stage ever since.
In what ways?
Communism's goal is to completely annihilate the people's identity and their culture to replace it with Communism. Russia is a good example considering they're still sucking off the guy who killed more Russians than anyone else. China is the best example. But really it happened in any country where a Communist revolution took place. Fortunately most weren't as successful.
Whatever you may think about National Socialism you can't argue that it shared this goal with Communism. National Socialism is a national ideology tailored to the German people. Communism is an international ideology that doesn't give a shit about culture, ethnicity and history.
You can dislike both while acknowledging that they're different.
I have to pick between the nazis and the globalist elite?
You're in luck. You can't pick the nazis anymore. National Socialism is dead. The 'nazis' of today are nothing but idiotic larpers that don't understand that National Socialism was a child of its time. You can't revive it. You shouldn't even if you could.
But you can stand against the globalist elite which means stop believing the lies told about their enemies. It doesn't mean picking a specific ideology or religion. There isn't one true ideology that's gonna solve every peoples problem.
Stop believing the fairy tales that are being told about the worlds history. Be it the ridiculous claims about Hitler wanting to conquer the world or Mosley being such a horrible person. Or that White settlers being the devil that massacred the peaceful Indians.
Communism's goal is to completely annihilate the people's identity and their culture to replace it with Communism. Russia is a good example considering they're still sucking off the guy who killed more Russians than anyone else. China is the best example. But really it happened in any country where a Communist revolution took place. Fortunately most weren't as successful.
Whatever you may think about National Socialism you can't argue that it shared this goal with Communism. National Socialism is a national ideology tailored to the German people. Communism is an international ideology that doesn't give a shit about culture, ethnicity and history.
You can dislike both while acknowledging that they're different.
I'd already acknowledged that its preference for its own was one major difference, and one to their credit. If that's your key argument, ok. Sure. It's still socialism's spawn though, which was my point.
But I will go further, because you went further, too far in fact, into ignoring who and what they were. It didn't seek to replace their identity and culture? It absolutely did. Fascism is a religion, so says Mussolini. It is totalitarian, not in the 'i'm going to throw some slur I don't understand because you disagree with me online' sense, in the actual all encompassing, involving every aspect of life sense, including culture and identity. Mussolini was quite direct in regards to Italian fascism, with it being a religion. The nazi's too, many were seeking to create some new pagan myth and have the people embody it, one that better suited their ends than the people's current culture and identity.
Be it the ridiculous claims about Hitler wanting to conquer the world
Malthusian thinking, particularly with it being so core, inevitably leads to this. That or suicide. There is no other logical outcome while maintaining those beliefs.
You're in luck. You can't pick the nazis anymore. National Socialism is dead. The 'nazis' of today are nothing but idiotic larpers that don't understand that National Socialism was a child of its time. You can't revive it. You shouldn't even if you could.
But you can stand against the globalist elite which means stop believing the lies told about their enemies. It doesn't mean picking a specific ideology or religion. There isn't one true ideology that's gonna solve every peoples problem.
Fair, one other point in their favour. But we're talking bare minimum again.
The one they ransomed and freed? So they gave him a modern bail slap on the wrist? Didn't actually punish the Rothschilds for their crimes?
The commies and socialists kill and purge others all the time, no real points for this one either, not when its brother against brother. Stalin doesn't get credit for purging Trotskyism.
Pretending that National Socialism and Communism are two sides of the same coin is a bit disingenuous don't you think? They have similarities, sure, most political ideologies do. But that's about it. They're fundamentally different.
It's the bare minimum that no one else did. The western world actually pushed the degeneracy on the rest of the world despite being 'anti-Communist' and 'Christian'. The US and Britain are almost single-handedly responsible for unleashing Communism around the world.
If it were pretending, sure, it would be disingenuous, by definition of course it would be. But it's not pretending. All the western lefty socialists before the commies got their marching orders from the USSR were full of praise for hitler and mussolini, who got all their ideas from their earlier 'pure' socialism, and they largely hoped to seize the same power he did and do similar things (and in america in particular did, FDR had some of em in his admin, controlling big bits of the new deal)
Let's not let Russia, France and Germany off the hook quite so quickly, they've each got an awful lot to answer for.
In what ways? Bonus points if it's not something that marx, mao, mussolini, stalin or che and castro didn't do/advocate for also.
I have to pick between the nazis and the globalist elite?
That's irrelevant. Most nationalist leaders were also full of praise for Hitler. Mosley is a good example for it. Everything he predicted came true.
Russia was the first victim of Communism and the Soviet Union was literally saved by the US and less so by England. But yes the Russian people are also at fault for being so scared of the Communists that they let it all happen laying down. But in the end it was the US that ensured that the Soviet Union could become a global super power. France, sure. Germany? Well I guess you could blame them for shipping Lenin into Russia to win the war in the East but at the same time Germany actually supported the Whites and if it hadn't been neutered by the Entente the Reds would have most likely lost the civil war. So if you can blame Germany for the Russian revolution is up for debate I guess. But since 45' Germany has been an occupied country, was thoroughly re-educated by the good guys and been irrelevant on the world stage ever since.
Communism's goal is to completely annihilate the people's identity and their culture to replace it with Communism. Russia is a good example considering they're still sucking off the guy who killed more Russians than anyone else. China is the best example. But really it happened in any country where a Communist revolution took place. Fortunately most weren't as successful.
Whatever you may think about National Socialism you can't argue that it shared this goal with Communism. National Socialism is a national ideology tailored to the German people. Communism is an international ideology that doesn't give a shit about culture, ethnicity and history.
You can dislike both while acknowledging that they're different.
You're in luck. You can't pick the nazis anymore. National Socialism is dead. The 'nazis' of today are nothing but idiotic larpers that don't understand that National Socialism was a child of its time. You can't revive it. You shouldn't even if you could.
But you can stand against the globalist elite which means stop believing the lies told about their enemies. It doesn't mean picking a specific ideology or religion. There isn't one true ideology that's gonna solve every peoples problem.
Stop believing the fairy tales that are being told about the worlds history. Be it the ridiculous claims about Hitler wanting to conquer the world or Mosley being such a horrible person. Or that White settlers being the devil that massacred the peaceful Indians.
I'd already acknowledged that its preference for its own was one major difference, and one to their credit. If that's your key argument, ok. Sure. It's still socialism's spawn though, which was my point.
But I will go further, because you went further, too far in fact, into ignoring who and what they were. It didn't seek to replace their identity and culture? It absolutely did. Fascism is a religion, so says Mussolini. It is totalitarian, not in the 'i'm going to throw some slur I don't understand because you disagree with me online' sense, in the actual all encompassing, involving every aspect of life sense, including culture and identity. Mussolini was quite direct in regards to Italian fascism, with it being a religion. The nazi's too, many were seeking to create some new pagan myth and have the people embody it, one that better suited their ends than the people's current culture and identity.
Malthusian thinking, particularly with it being so core, inevitably leads to this. That or suicide. There is no other logical outcome while maintaining those beliefs.
We're on the same page here at least.