EU condemns the execution of a 9 times rapist and killer
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And when does he become a criminal? After the conviction? He is already heading to prison then, its useless barbarism then. After the charge? Since you are in favor of lowering the bar to charging people more, that's just letting them beat people with an extra piece of paperwork. Before the charge? That's the Japan one and that's not a criminal in the slightest.
They already have many rules to allow them to beat when necessary, and they are still killing random, innocent people because they can barely restrain themselves. And yet you want laxer.
No disagreement on this point. But I'd also include any false accuser including law enforcers. If the law tried to set you up you should be in your right to beat the cop, the judge, and maybe even the prosecutor.
Because tomorrow you could be the criminal. Whether by the changing current of society or because of someone with an axe to grind. Its that little American idea like "protecting free speech means protecting the worst speech."
Yeah, because the law just being allowed to do whatever they liked worked out so well for the J6 guys and Derek Chauvin and during Covid. You keep talking like cops are these partisan and neutral force of goodness, and not a literal cudgel of the state. And that "criminal" would include us right now if our enemies had slightly more power.
When he commits the crime. You think him being convicted in a court of law makes him a criminal? Was OJ not a criminal then since he was never convicted in a court of law?
Uh huh. How many deaths have the japanese police been responsible for over the last five years that were the result of them beating people? What percentage?
Let's settle it this way. You beat criminals who mug/rape/rob/kill/extort people. We can discuss the beating of others when laws come up criminalising actions
You act like those 3 weren't all political. you think the cops were the ones who initiated the hunt for j6? or for derek chauvin? Or who made all the stupid rules on covid?
Cops do whatever those on top tell them to do. And let's not even get into what I think corrupt govt officlas and politicians who use statepowers to hunt down political enemies or rivals should get.
And all of these laws and restrictions and hoops to jump through are to prove that someone actually committed a crime. So we are back to the original problem, you don't see an issue if innocent people get hurt as long as more criminals suffer along the way.
No idea, don't live in Japan. We are talking about an issue bigger than one country, with theirs as just an example of one of the abuses. Considering you just brought up OJ in the last sentence, you know this and are just trying to restrict it down to win an argument.
Your trauma is showing when you list what happened to you first before raping and killing, and completely skip assault to make sure that you list it twice (all muggings are robberies, its a specific type of robbing).
And we aren't settling shit that way. If cops get to beat anyone they suspect are criminals, we get to beat them if it turns out we aren't.
All cops are government employees, which means their use and deployment is entirely and always political. Including what constitutes breaking the law and what makes you a criminal. Which is one of the problems with your entire idea. They are not weapons that exist to catch and punish criminals in a morally neutral, bipartisan sense. They are flawed men acting as the arm of a system you yourself have just said is being used in a horrible, evil fashion.
So why should we give them more freedom to charge and brutalize us? They do not exist in a vacuum, so are agreeing with all those perversities of justice being acceptable by saying they should have more power.