I didn't believe that in my original comment I had to prove that the theft of digital assets was physically possible because I assumed everyone could understand that concept, and what I was being tasked with describing was about how a LLM was different from text to speech. I originally assumed that you would want a conversation about the concepts around IP's, copyrights, and things like that. It never occurred to me that you do not believe that digital assets are even things that can be stolen. Philosophically, you're starting from a position that all digital assets do not even count as property, which is why it is impossible to steal them. That positions is objectively absurd.
"theft of the material" implied, originally, that we were talking about intellectual property and associated damages. I didn't know that you rejected the concept of theft when applied to any digital asset. I thought we were at least in the same book when I was responding to you, though not the same page.
It would be like if you said you think tomatoes are not a vegetable. Then, I respond by explaining how they are fruit. Then you turn around and say, "Gizortnik, tomatoes are not a food, and thus can not be a vegetable, let alone this weird idea that they are a fruit." That caught me off guard because now we're not talking about fruits or vegetables at all. We can't agree on what food is, so arguing about a sub-set of food makes no sense, and any reference I had towards that is no longer useful in the conversation.
You keep saying "digital assets can be stolen" but you haven't explained how copying something
You have gone back to intentionally conflating theft with copying, again.
You are literally unwilling to accept that a file on your computer can be physically removed from your possession.
"Theft" isn't just "taking something you shouldn't."
That's fairly reductive, but it's about right. Yes, things that you take without permission are, in fact, theft. Even if no one noticed, or if you gave them back. That's how property rights exist in the first place. This is why I'm saying you aren't even treating digital assets as property.
I didn't believe that in my original comment I had to prove that the theft of digital assets was physically possible because I assumed everyone could understand that concept, and what I was being tasked with describing was about how a LLM was different from text to speech. I originally assumed that you would want a conversation about the concepts around IP's, copyrights, and things like that. It never occurred to me that you do not believe that digital assets are even things that can be stolen. Philosophically, you're starting from a position that all digital assets do not even count as property, which is why it is impossible to steal them. That positions is objectively absurd.
"theft of the material" implied, originally, that we were talking about intellectual property and associated damages. I didn't know that you rejected the concept of theft when applied to any digital asset. I thought we were at least in the same book when I was responding to you, though not the same page.
It would be like if you said you think tomatoes are not a vegetable. Then, I respond by explaining how they are fruit. Then you turn around and say, "Gizortnik, tomatoes are not a food, and thus can not be a vegetable, let alone this weird idea that they are a fruit." That caught me off guard because now we're not talking about fruits or vegetables at all. We can't agree on what food is, so arguing about a sub-set of food makes no sense, and any reference I had towards that is no longer useful in the conversation.
You have gone back to intentionally conflating theft with copying, again.
You are literally unwilling to accept that a file on your computer can be physically removed from your possession.
That's fairly reductive, but it's about right. Yes, things that you take without permission are, in fact, theft. Even if no one noticed, or if you gave them back. That's how property rights exist in the first place. This is why I'm saying you aren't even treating digital assets as property.