The discourse surrounding mass deportations has been a healthy debate. As with any discussion in right-wing circles that even touches on Israel, this was autistic screeching.
Certainly, because Trump has never used bravado and overblown rhetoric to force people to negotiate with him. That would be totally out of character for him.
just trusted the non-existent plan?
Again with the straw man. You keep trying to argue points I never made. It's possible to rely on Trump's proven track record in these situations as evidence of what he's likely to do without being a "trust the plan" dogmatist.
Tucker is the guy I trust most. You're not mentioning him.
I actually do think that Razor's criticism of Tucker is unfair. As for Trump, it's possible that he really was being gaslit by the warhawks in his administration into ignoring the critics, or it's possible that he was just trying to present a united front from his own administration and base in order to convince the Iranians to negotiate.
As for your Russian Roulette analogy, that's not what this was. This was a beleaguered parent taking one kid's side over another in a fight before he came to his senses and realized he was being played, and that it's his job to make sure they both behave.
As I said, that's the most even-handed any US president has ever been with regard to Israel. It's not perfect, but it is progress.
As with any discussion in right-wing circles that even touches on Israel, this was autistic screeching.
Right, but if you tune out the retards who are always screeching about Israel, I think people like MTG and Tucker had valuable input. And of course, I'm not one to autistically screech about Israel, at least previously.
Certainly, because Trump has never used bravado and overblown rhetoric to force people to negotiate with him. That would be totally out of character for him.
If that was the intent, it's really grossly immoral to use 12 million people in a city as pawns to get to that point. And they were negotiating already before they were attacked anyway.
You keep trying to argue points I never made
Not intentionally. I just don't really understand what your precise position is. If I understand it correctly, you oppose war, but think that because all's well that ends well, people were wrong to 'panic' as you say. Of course, panicking is a way to prevent things from getting worse.
It's possible to rely on Trump's proven track record in these situations as evidence of what he's likely to do
Trump is highly unpredictable. And he also tends to do what he says he's going to do. So when he started making the bad noises, well... people got worried.
This was a beleaguered parent taking one kid's side over another in a fight before he came to his senses and realized he was being played, and that it's his job to make sure they both behave.
Well... it doesn't look like that to me.
As I said, that's the most even-handed any US president has ever been with regard to Israel. It's not perfect, but it is progress.
I think even Biden vetoed Israeli strikes on Iran. So while I appreciate his work on a cease fire, his previous actios are plenty open to criticism. And if I understand you correctly, you sort of agree but think that people were too concerned about it.
The discourse surrounding mass deportations has been a healthy debate. As with any discussion in right-wing circles that even touches on Israel, this was autistic screeching.
Certainly, because Trump has never used bravado and overblown rhetoric to force people to negotiate with him. That would be totally out of character for him.
Again with the straw man. You keep trying to argue points I never made. It's possible to rely on Trump's proven track record in these situations as evidence of what he's likely to do without being a "trust the plan" dogmatist.
I actually do think that Razor's criticism of Tucker is unfair. As for Trump, it's possible that he really was being gaslit by the warhawks in his administration into ignoring the critics, or it's possible that he was just trying to present a united front from his own administration and base in order to convince the Iranians to negotiate.
As for your Russian Roulette analogy, that's not what this was. This was a beleaguered parent taking one kid's side over another in a fight before he came to his senses and realized he was being played, and that it's his job to make sure they both behave.
As I said, that's the most even-handed any US president has ever been with regard to Israel. It's not perfect, but it is progress.
Right, but if you tune out the retards who are always screeching about Israel, I think people like MTG and Tucker had valuable input. And of course, I'm not one to autistically screech about Israel, at least previously.
If that was the intent, it's really grossly immoral to use 12 million people in a city as pawns to get to that point. And they were negotiating already before they were attacked anyway.
Not intentionally. I just don't really understand what your precise position is. If I understand it correctly, you oppose war, but think that because all's well that ends well, people were wrong to 'panic' as you say. Of course, panicking is a way to prevent things from getting worse.
Trump is highly unpredictable. And he also tends to do what he says he's going to do. So when he started making the bad noises, well... people got worried.
Well... it doesn't look like that to me.
I think even Biden vetoed Israeli strikes on Iran. So while I appreciate his work on a cease fire, his previous actios are plenty open to criticism. And if I understand you correctly, you sort of agree but think that people were too concerned about it.