Disclaimer: Nah, you know what, no disclaimer. Figure it out. Or don't, and call me names. Dealer's choice.
Was just thinking about propaganda and inversion.
Here's the commonly accepted perception:
Israel: Beleaguered state, surrounded by enemies. Constantly attacked. Doesn't get the support it needs. Shunned by the world. Has the right to self defense.
Iran: Official State Sponsor of Terrorism™. Rogue state. Engages in murder and assassination. A danger to the world. Causes chaos in the region. Has nukes.
Not saying Iran is innocent, for the record. They do fund other groups, but if you're talking just the actions of the State itself, Israel is much more involved in terrorism, murder, and assassination than Iran is. Openly, brazenly.
It's amazing how easily you could flip these. DARVO.
Except the same people behind creating the vaccum are the same people now demanding we take out Iran. And this isn't even the first time they have demanded it. We pulled off a coup there back in the 50s that led directly to the mess we are currently in.
So who are they going to demand we take out next as a result of this new vacuum? I know who we should be taking out. Thankfully millions of others are starting to agree with me.
You are arguing with a position I didn't take.
All I said was Iran still committed the acts, because they are humans responsible for their own actions, regardless on if we set up the situation that lead to them doing so. The US and the Jews can have fucked up hundreds of times horribly leading to this set up, but that doesn't change that the Arabs still actually went ahead and did it and should be judged for that.
Both groups can be evil at once without diminishing the responsibility each one has.
The previous poster was using Iran's behavior in that vacuum as pretext for doing "regime change" in Iran. I don't give a fuck who you think is evil over there. If you advocate for us to be on the side of toppling a sovereign government that hasn't declared war on us, then you are the evil one in my eyes. (The general "you", not you in particular.)
I don't disagree with you on that. I simply don't absolve Iran from being called terrorists or evil themselves because they still made the choice to act that way.
But I also don't care much about doing anything about that either, short of glassing the entire desert to rid it of all Arabs forever.