Or Hitler started WWII? Both were "preemptive strikes". Or will pro-Israel people admit that Israel started this and they're the aggressor?
Obviously, pro-Israel people will say Iran was asking for it but that's the same argument pro-Russian and pro-Hitler people use.
This attack should be adequate proof that "who started what" really doesn't matter. I never thought it mattered but I hope everyone else sees that it doesn't matter.
Pretty sure the claim is generally that they started it by waging war against their ethnic Russian population, and by not respecting the Minsk Accords.
But yes, it's not hard to understand why making moves to join NATO would be extremely concerning from Russia's perspective, considering it has been promised over and over that NATO would not expand.
Ok so making a move to maybe join a defensive treaty at some point in the future is worthy of preemptive invasion, but building a nuclear weapon while your politicians chant "death to america, death to israel" in is not. Got it.
I never said that, but keep putting words in my mouth. Just commented on the blatant strawman you erected.
I don't give a shit what Israel does so long as we aren't dragged into it. Given past history I think it's reasonable to be concerned that we will be.
The subject of the thread is a comparison between Russian aggression and Israeli aggression. I said:
You replied:
In context you are drawing an equivalence between Ukrainian action (vaguely talking about joining NATO), and Iranian action (building a nuclear weapon with intent to kill everyone in Israel) in terms of justifying military action against them. If that was not your intent, feel free to just openly state that the Russian action in Ukraine is far more unreasonable than the Israeli action in Iran.
There was a fake color revolution in Ukraine. The entire fucking election was stolen. Drop boxes, paper ballots all over the place. It was a trial run for the 2020 election in USA 6 years later.
Unless you believe the 2014 was legit?
Even retarded redditors know Ukraine was couped
https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/tg9zwp/what_evidence_exists_for_or_against_the_assertion/
Congratulations. You are even more of a political simp that redditors. You swallow the mainstream normie bullshit and repeat it even more annoyingly than they do.
You ignored:
Fuck off.
The only reason most of these people curse America is because you are controlled by ZOG. You live in a zionist jew controlled system. Decades of brainwashing and propaganda made you empathize for these racist inbred genocidal well poisoning puberty blocking baby killing kid fucking kikes
Every jew is just another Epstein Weinstein Madoff etc. Perverts liars hypocrites racists obnoxious Christ hating kippah clutching kikes
> You live in a zionist jew controlled system.
I actually agree with this. I would like to be done with israel entirely.
But the actions of Ukraine and the actions of Iran are not equivalent. Not remotely. Your concerns cannot be taken seriously if you fire off a all-or-nothing diatribe every time you detect a keyword. There are degrees in reality.
The conflicts in Ukraine and Iran are similar because jews are the reason there is conflict at all.
Are you defending Ukraine? They stole the election in 2014, the USA completely meddled in their sovereign nation's election, did precisely what you falsely accused Russia of doing in the 2016 election, and then you even have a kike as president in Ukraine now who is currently the dictator because he canceled the elections.
None of these wars should involve USA but again, USA is controlled by jews so of course they are going to use our White sons to be their mercenaries and our funding and taxes to pay for their bombs and weapons and there's too many willing cuckolds like yourself to cheer them on.
I realize you're getting ganged up on in this forum so i'm not trying to just pile on.
HERE'S THE ACTUAL CALL WHERE VICTORIA NULAND IS DISCUSSING ☭ SETTING UP THE COUP IN UKRAINE IN 2014 https://www.bitchute.com/video/SU7MYXclKRNa
Obama even admitted in an interview on CNN that the USA orchestrated a regime change in Ukraine.
You seem to believe a lot of normie shit. Please spend more time in c/conspiracies which has a far better track record than MAGAtards cheering on a new Israeli provoked war every couple years.