East Africa: Ethiopia and Somalia(Kush and Sheba), yes
West Africa, no. no.. no... Trading enough gold and slaves to arabs ripping you off (They paid gold for salt pound for pound and paid out gold for a tiny fraction of the same weight in copper) so that you can build some mildly improved mudhuts does not make a civilization.
I mean technically they are a civilization now, to some extent, but not appreciably before the age of exploration.
North American civilizations existed. All North American tribal civilizations were subsumed by the American civilization and are now dependent on it for their existence as a people. The same can be said for Central and South American civilizations being dependent on European-Christian civilizations, despite the fact that they were significantly more advanced than the ones in North America.
North Africa, yes
East Africa: Ethiopia and Somalia(Kush and Sheba), yes
West Africa, no. no.. no... Trading enough gold and slaves to arabs ripping you off (They paid gold for salt pound for pound and paid out gold for a tiny fraction of the same weight in copper) so that you can build some mildly improved mudhuts does not make a civilization.
I mean technically they are a civilization now, to some extent, but not appreciably before the age of exploration.
You can say it's not a civilization, but it still was (and it was an Islamic one for a period of time).
Again, even if we are arguing that it's not a civilization because it's primitive, that doesn't mean that "primitive civilizations" can't exist.
Primitive and completely dependent on more advanced civilizations for any of its civilized aspects
Those aren't different terms.
North American civilizations existed. All North American tribal civilizations were subsumed by the American civilization and are now dependent on it for their existence as a people. The same can be said for Central and South American civilizations being dependent on European-Christian civilizations, despite the fact that they were significantly more advanced than the ones in North America.