I don't think it's as simple as men gave up because porn exists. Porn existed thousands of years ago. Ease of access allows more men to turn to porn but I think there'd be less porn addicts if men were finding women they could form healthy families with. Instead we've got the modern hellscape where a huge swath of men in society have little to no chance at scoring any pussy and the women attached to said pussy are absolutely abominable and are backed by a legal system that will gleefully destroy these men. What's the motivation to grind and become worthy of a woman when the reward is a shitty woman who hates you and will blow up your life in two to twenty years because she got bored? That's a hard sell for a lot of guys out there, but that doesn't erase the biological urge to nut, so you get legions of men turning to porn.
Porn did not exist 1000 years ago if you're talking about: high definition, photo-realistic, any thing imaginable, any type of woman imaginable, any sex act imaginable, high speed terabytes of video, VR hedset, headphones with near perfect audio pornography.
Like how do you pretend that is similar to nude cave paintings or even a playboy magazine from 1973 which is already bad enough? Are you just being dishonest to not realize the affect that this is having?
Oh I very much realize the effect this is having, but I'm saying that this isn't something new, just a difference of degree/magnitude. But sure, let's zero in on porn and ignore the root problem. This is the rat with the heroin button all over again, if you put the rat in a healthy environment it doesn't bother with the heroin. Put people in a healthy environment and they won't be wallowing in porn because they're too busy banging their wife and living a fulfilling life.
I don't think it's as simple as men gave up because porn exists. Porn existed thousands of years ago. Ease of access allows more men to turn to porn but I think there'd be less porn addicts if men were finding women they could form healthy families with. Instead we've got the modern hellscape where a huge swath of men in society have little to no chance at scoring any pussy and the women attached to said pussy are absolutely abominable and are backed by a legal system that will gleefully destroy these men. What's the motivation to grind and become worthy of a woman when the reward is a shitty woman who hates you and will blow up your life in two to twenty years because she got bored? That's a hard sell for a lot of guys out there, but that doesn't erase the biological urge to nut, so you get legions of men turning to porn.
Porn did not exist 1000 years ago if you're talking about: high definition, photo-realistic, any thing imaginable, any type of woman imaginable, any sex act imaginable, high speed terabytes of video, VR hedset, headphones with near perfect audio pornography.
Like how do you pretend that is similar to nude cave paintings or even a playboy magazine from 1973 which is already bad enough? Are you just being dishonest to not realize the affect that this is having?
Oh I very much realize the effect this is having, but I'm saying that this isn't something new, just a difference of degree/magnitude. But sure, let's zero in on porn and ignore the root problem. This is the rat with the heroin button all over again, if you put the rat in a healthy environment it doesn't bother with the heroin. Put people in a healthy environment and they won't be wallowing in porn because they're too busy banging their wife and living a fulfilling life.