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"Listen to this guy who's been fucking wrong about everything for twenty years" [Doug Murray] (www.youtube.com)
posted 1 year ago by Kienan 1 year ago by Kienan +53 / -0
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– fauxgnaws 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I floated the idea right after the debate that it was some kind plan; Murray is clever and an effective communicator and I don't believe for a second he simply got steamrolled.

Watch the first two minutes. Murray immediately takes charge, accuses JRE of being one-sided, and defines the debate for at least the first two hours. He came there with a goal in mind.

But I doubt it has anything to do with an Iran war. I'm confident that a candidate from either party running on an anti-Israel or even anti-Jew platform would handily win 2028 in a 2016-esque upset. "You can't insult your way to the Presidency," says Jeb!, but people were so sick of this walking on eggshells they went with the totally unwinnable, totally crass candidate. The same type of unrest now, but over Israel and/or Jews.

This is what people like James Lindsey and Doug Murray have also noticed, and they so fear 'the rise of fascism' from their upbringing, that they're willing to throw themselves on the fire to prevent it. A fire among intellectuals that's been stoked by a Greater Israel that's panicking over the public sentiment they're seeing.

They have to control or contain these long-form debates and forums because if there is honest debate people are going to say fuck this 1% who are dual citizens that don't have allegiance or a care for the country - which especially the young online crowd are increasingly saying.

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– current_horror 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

If Trump went anti-Israel, he’d lose all of his funding and win like 65% of the popular vote.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

They have to control or contain these long-form debates and forums because if there is honest debate people are going to say fuck this 1% who are dual citizens that don't have allegiance or a care for the country - which especially the young online crowd are increasingly saying.

Israel is polling at like 20% approval with zoomers. Even overall Republican polling has dropped near 50% iirc. At this point they've lost the war. Their future is a very slow motion car crash. The only question is how much negativity they can mitigate, if any.

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