Also, Joe is pretty stupid. Its why he can get literally anyone on his show (they think they can talk around him easily) and people constantly let down their guard enough to admit shit in front of him. No hate on the guy, but his great strength is in being a "no thoughts, head empty" bouncing board for important people to monologue at.

The phrase "too dumb to fool" comes to mind. He's almost a living example of the Socratic method with his own fact-checker, Jamie.