Normal people don't scream incessently about "early life" and are not paranoid of jews. So, don't evoke what normal people consider to be evidence, because then you would have even less than what you have now.
As for being in court, you can not establish that someone is secretly a jew because you saw a surname and assumed their religion.
How many Whites have you ever seen who are named Muhammad?
Normal people don't scream incessently about "early life" and are not paranoid of jews.
I didn't say he was "normal." I said for normal people there was sufficient evidence to substantiate a claim like that. If it's true or not is irrelevant. And it is not your prerogative to determine what claims are wrong or correct.
So, don't evoke what normal people consider to be evidence
It doesn't matter what people think about it. Those with sufficient intelligence are more likely to properly assess information, or even look it up themselves (which you still haven't btw). Only because the lowest common denominator is too bad at evaluating claims, doesn't mean you should ban people based on what a hypothetical idiot is capable to process.
As for being in court, you can not establish that someone is secretly a jew because you saw a surname and assumed their religion.
In court the rule of in dubeo pro reo exists, which has a whole lot of reasons, like preventing excess of power, ensuring legal protocol for police, requiring and properly assessing evidence, and not abusing the accused in various ways.
This is not a court. This is mere people talking. In a court you couldn't even claim 2+2=4 without an "expert" (hyperbolically speaking). And I don't think it's even secretly - it's quite obvious, but nobody is talking about it. Nobody is explicitly saying they are not jews either, as to not draw attention to it, because people would flock and debunk that claim easily.
Several. Turns out Muslims aren't a race either.
Do I really need to specify what "White" means?... Caucasians. Not Turkeys, not Arabs, not Jews, not Orientals, not Eskimos, I mean actual native Europeans whose ancestors lived in Europe for 1000+ years.
So could it be that with "several" you meant 0 then? Because all Muhammads you claim to know are NOT native Europeans, but foreigners with bright skin colors?
Thinking about it today, I see where the confusion may come from.
"Jewish" is not a matter of religion. It has to be understood like a nationality. It is a combination of race (genetics), culture, religion, language, traditions. You can be an atheist jew (which many consider themselves to be), indicating that religion is just a factor that is optional.
Communists in general and communist Jews are notoriously atheist. Many Jews also don't speak Yiddish. However even many among those have a special loyalty towards Jews and even take part in Jewish traditions.
It appears there is wide-spread consensus about this, even Jews see it that way. So this was never about religion.
I disagree. The religion informs everything else. The reason it's an ethnic group is from the religion. The religion, the culture, the nationality, all of it is defined by the religion.
If the rules of Judaism were to simply vanish overnight, so would jewry and jews. Without Judaism, jews can not exist.
If that were true all atheists would be the same, including a lot of Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. Clearly that's not the case. The Chinese slave laborer is different than me for example.
The reason it's an ethnic group is from the religion.
Genetics -> race -> culture <->>> religion.
While culture and religion influence each other, culture affects religion way more. Culture is an extension of the collective being of a given population, manifesting itself in tradition, behaviors, legal systems, government, economic systems, level of technology, religion, language and more. It's not about art exhibits in museums.
all of it is defined by the religion.
Then why are Europeans different even though they have similar religions? And why are Christian Africans WAY different than European Christians? Why are South Americans different than North Americans even though they share the same religion?
Religion is clearly not the reason. It's culture. And culture derives from race. And race derives from genetics.
Without Judaism, jews can not exist.
That doesn't apply to any other ethnic group on the planet though, and if true (which isn't), it would be unique to jews. Which would be weird because there were and are many atheist jews. And atheists tend towards leftist ideologies. There are atheists from all countries, and I don't see many similarities between them all over the world.
Religions come and go, culture is way more consistent and slow-changing.
I'm not saying religion informs it generically. I'm saying that Judaism specifically informs everything else for jews. All their cultures, traditions, values, and everything else come from their religion.
You're relationship between genetics and race is out of wack in regards to culture. Genetics can inform general patterns, but it doesn't tell anyone whether Christmas will be celebrated in January or December. Most of the genetic differences between human groups are too mild to account for most cultural differences, such as the cultural differences between the east and west Germans is clearly coming from decades of Communist rule on one side and not the other.
African Christians and Europeans Christians actually have similar cultures due to Christianity making their cultures similar. Whereas an African Muslim and a European Christian have effectively nothing in common.
For Judaism specifically, again, the religion is the sole defining feature of everything else. Particularly because of the mandatory nature of traditions, marriage laws, and conversion laws, Judaism is a more reclusive religion that wields outside influence over it's demography than Islam or Christianity ever would.
It's not unique to all other ethnic groups, just most of them because most religions aren't as particularly reclusive, and none of the other major religions are. Contrast that with the Cult Of Ashur, which is what created the Assyrian Empire, and defined what it meant to be an Assyrian, and this particular tribal religion has oversized weight on everything else. When the Assyrian Empire died, so did the cult, and so did the ethnic group. The people we refer to as "Assyrian Christians" have basically nothing in common with the people who worshiped Ashur, even genetically at this point. Tribal religions do tend to operate this way, especially if those religions are cults.
I also have disagree on the speed of cultural change, it's the fastest possible form of social change. I know Boomers who barely recognize American culture, and they are still alive. Culture can change quite violently, and can be heavily based on external factors.
Normal people don't scream incessently about "early life" and are not paranoid of jews. So, don't evoke what normal people consider to be evidence, because then you would have even less than what you have now.
As for being in court, you can not establish that someone is secretly a jew because you saw a surname and assumed their religion.
Several. Turns out Muslims aren't a race either.
I didn't say he was "normal." I said for normal people there was sufficient evidence to substantiate a claim like that. If it's true or not is irrelevant. And it is not your prerogative to determine what claims are wrong or correct.
It doesn't matter what people think about it. Those with sufficient intelligence are more likely to properly assess information, or even look it up themselves (which you still haven't btw). Only because the lowest common denominator is too bad at evaluating claims, doesn't mean you should ban people based on what a hypothetical idiot is capable to process.
In court the rule of in dubeo pro reo exists, which has a whole lot of reasons, like preventing excess of power, ensuring legal protocol for police, requiring and properly assessing evidence, and not abusing the accused in various ways.
This is not a court. This is mere people talking. In a court you couldn't even claim 2+2=4 without an "expert" (hyperbolically speaking). And I don't think it's even secretly - it's quite obvious, but nobody is talking about it. Nobody is explicitly saying they are not jews either, as to not draw attention to it, because people would flock and debunk that claim easily.
Do I really need to specify what "White" means?... Caucasians. Not Turkeys, not Arabs, not Jews, not Orientals, not Eskimos, I mean actual native Europeans whose ancestors lived in Europe for 1000+ years.
So could it be that with "several" you meant 0 then? Because all Muhammads you claim to know are NOT native Europeans, but foreigners with bright skin colors?
Thinking about it today, I see where the confusion may come from.
"Jewish" is not a matter of religion. It has to be understood like a nationality. It is a combination of race (genetics), culture, religion, language, traditions. You can be an atheist jew (which many consider themselves to be), indicating that religion is just a factor that is optional.
Communists in general and communist Jews are notoriously atheist. Many Jews also don't speak Yiddish. However even many among those have a special loyalty towards Jews and even take part in Jewish traditions.
It appears there is wide-spread consensus about this, even Jews see it that way. So this was never about religion.
I disagree. The religion informs everything else. The reason it's an ethnic group is from the religion. The religion, the culture, the nationality, all of it is defined by the religion.
If the rules of Judaism were to simply vanish overnight, so would jewry and jews. Without Judaism, jews can not exist.
I am glad I figured out the misunderstanding.
If that were true all atheists would be the same, including a lot of Japanese, Chinese and Koreans. Clearly that's not the case. The Chinese slave laborer is different than me for example.
Genetics -> race -> culture <->>> religion.
While culture and religion influence each other, culture affects religion way more. Culture is an extension of the collective being of a given population, manifesting itself in tradition, behaviors, legal systems, government, economic systems, level of technology, religion, language and more. It's not about art exhibits in museums.
Then why are Europeans different even though they have similar religions? And why are Christian Africans WAY different than European Christians? Why are South Americans different than North Americans even though they share the same religion?
Religion is clearly not the reason. It's culture. And culture derives from race. And race derives from genetics.
That doesn't apply to any other ethnic group on the planet though, and if true (which isn't), it would be unique to jews. Which would be weird because there were and are many atheist jews. And atheists tend towards leftist ideologies. There are atheists from all countries, and I don't see many similarities between them all over the world.
Religions come and go, culture is way more consistent and slow-changing.
I'm not saying religion informs it generically. I'm saying that Judaism specifically informs everything else for jews. All their cultures, traditions, values, and everything else come from their religion.
You're relationship between genetics and race is out of wack in regards to culture. Genetics can inform general patterns, but it doesn't tell anyone whether Christmas will be celebrated in January or December. Most of the genetic differences between human groups are too mild to account for most cultural differences, such as the cultural differences between the east and west Germans is clearly coming from decades of Communist rule on one side and not the other.
African Christians and Europeans Christians actually have similar cultures due to Christianity making their cultures similar. Whereas an African Muslim and a European Christian have effectively nothing in common.
For Judaism specifically, again, the religion is the sole defining feature of everything else. Particularly because of the mandatory nature of traditions, marriage laws, and conversion laws, Judaism is a more reclusive religion that wields outside influence over it's demography than Islam or Christianity ever would.
It's not unique to all other ethnic groups, just most of them because most religions aren't as particularly reclusive, and none of the other major religions are. Contrast that with the Cult Of Ashur, which is what created the Assyrian Empire, and defined what it meant to be an Assyrian, and this particular tribal religion has oversized weight on everything else. When the Assyrian Empire died, so did the cult, and so did the ethnic group. The people we refer to as "Assyrian Christians" have basically nothing in common with the people who worshiped Ashur, even genetically at this point. Tribal religions do tend to operate this way, especially if those religions are cults.
I also have disagree on the speed of cultural change, it's the fastest possible form of social change. I know Boomers who barely recognize American culture, and they are still alive. Culture can change quite violently, and can be heavily based on external factors.