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Using AI to mitigate the pedo problem - yea or nay? (twitter.com)
posted 1 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 months ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +25 / -3
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– Adamrises 9 points 1 months ago +9 / -0

I grew up in the 90s being berated with "weed is a gateway drug!!!" being slung at me from every direction. Both my mom and sister are heavy tokers, but neither have expressed interest in meth, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, pain-killers, or anything else

This slippery slope was heavily simplified for marketing slogans, but it wasn't wrong.

Where I grew up (and likely most areas of the country) the guy selling you weed was also the guy selling you the harder stuff too. He had vested interest in getting you addicted to more expensive, more addictive stuff. Including lacing it in the weed he was selling you if necessary.

Not to mention for a lot of people their introduction to weed comes from a place of "wanting to rebel" or "social pressures" both of which will only increase the chances of them moving on to higher "party drugs" with time.

Most people who heard the slogan assumed incorrectly that "you'll need cocaine to get the same high as weed eventually!" when the reality is "people who do X have a much higher chance of moving onto Y" and it was a better idea to keep your chances nearer 0% by simply never doing it in the first place.

A good amount of people will never have issue in this regard, and if kept in a healthy society, with a healthy community and mental state, the chances of it going wrong are probably pretty low. This applies to pot and porn alike.

But do you think we live in such a world? Do most people have such resilience and self-control? Should we always assume something will be used in the most optimal method and environment when making our judgements and decisions of it, or do we shame it because of how horribly wrong it can go?

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– PM-Melania-feet-pics 1 point 1 months ago +1 / -0

I never met anyone offering me hard drugs to get me addicted, "first hit's free" and all the boomer DARE propaganda. The only people I ever knew who were willing to suck dick for drugs didn't actually want the drugs.

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– Adamrises 3 points 1 months ago +3 / -0

Lol, he ain't gonna offer it free. That's propaganda to simplify it. The same way abstinence is taught rather than the nuances of safer sex.

But just like every other form of salesmanship, it being there massively increases your chance of buying it. These are salesmen, they know how to sell you things. Even if they are dealing out of a dirty trap house, the same techniques still apply and will be used as they would at a car dealership or furniture store.

So, while you might be someone who is able to not fall for those tricks, they work on the majority of people consistently. That's why they are taught and used.

The only people I ever knew who were willing to suck dick for drugs didn't actually want the drugs.

You haven't met enough women then. This is usually how they start, sucking dick to get free drugs gleefully before it turns into "I hate this but I need it." Shit its why drug dealers always have girlfriends lined up, even if they are ugly goblin men.

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– 5Cats 2 points 1 month ago +2 / -0

You haven't met enough women then.

I agree, it is very real. Men too, plenty of hardcore addicts will be "gay for pay" because getting high is more important than, well, anything else! Plenty of homos eager to exploit them, now that it's normalized & open in society.

Once young people hop onto the drink/drugs bandwagon? They're very likely to be wanting to go "one step higher" and at least try harder drugs.

I once knew a group of pot-smoking ex-bikers who only smoked & drank for over a decade. They almost self-destructed after one of them got into the cocaine & it spread to most of them. They all went through hell but managed to dig out together.
I think their answer to "want something harder" now is "No thank you, and if you ever ask me again I will smash your face in."

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– Adamrises 3 points 1 month ago +3 / -0

plenty of hardcore addicts will be "gay for pay" because getting high is more important than, well, anything else

I think guys fall into the camp he was talking about of people who don't even want the drugs but are so addicted that they will do it anyway. The methheads on Tiger King I think were great examples, a bunch of guys who'd probably be massive homophobes but were doing gay shit because they just needed that hit.

I don't doubt there are also plenty of gays willing to suck dick for the taste and the free drugs, however. The same way plenty of slutty dumb women are.

They're very likely to be wanting to go "one step higher" and at least try harder drugs.

I do think this is less likely than it seems. Sure there are probably adrenaline seekers out there happy to jump to coke for the thrill, but few people are getting on fentanyl or meth to "go higher."

I think this idea comes from trying to put all drugs in the same category and temptations. Things like molly and coke and other "party drugs" absolutely are mostly young/rich people wanting to go higher, while "street drugs" like heroin and crack are likely more like a stumble in to.

DARE and other programs tried to muddle down thier message for literal children, the only people who'd such a simple form would work on. But then those kids became teenagers and instantly rebelled like teens do, and because of it they treat DARE messaging like some gospel everyone believed.

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