You mean to tell me that people would ACTUALLY enter into a religious organization, rise through the ranks, make it to the top, purely so they gain wealth and power and dictate people's lives through their religious beliefs? No one would ever do that in the real world. I mean, you'd never hear any real life story of a religious leader convincing all his followers to kill themselves, or a religious leader convincing his followers to go on a murderous rampage for 1400 years. (Obvious sarcasm)
Sister Semple, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Jim Jones, That dude in Japan with the Sarin gas, Moon... just off the top of my head. That's just for "wealth and power" though, they rarely take over nations. Unless you count Pol Pot or North Korea as religious (communism can be a religion) takeovers?
Not that I agree with ilirrem or anything, but there have been quite a few over the years. They tend to self-destruct or lose appeal & followers rather quickly.
You fell for the psyop. Jonestown wasn't a religious enclave it was a communist one. And an enormous amount of time and energy was spent covering that up, and so everyone thinks it was some crazy Christian cult.
While it's pretty fucking awful to listen to, well, listen to the Jonestown audio. It makes it pretty clear.
Jonestown was literally founded as a place to live their perfect Communist utopia. A bunch of shit happened, and Jim Jones's enforcers ended up killing a congressman. Welp, Jim knew that that meant the USG was going to come absolutely fucking end them, so he gathered everyone together and busted out the Flavor-Ade.
The audio is like 10% religious and 90% him lamenting the failure of their communist dream. His #2 was some nigress and she talks about the horrors of 'racism' and 'capitalism' and that they all need to die to prove some kind of point.
And the first two barely count. Not sure why Aimee Semple is even on this list unless you are seriously intent on twisting the intent of the comic/llirrem's statement. And Elizabeth Clare Prophet was fairly harmless, just a moonbat who made people dig holes for an apocalypse that didn't happen.
All in all the point is that these kinds of people are ridiculously rare compared to how Le Enlightened Atheists like to pretend they are. Because guess what, it turns out getting a bunch of lunatics to go along with another lunatic is actually extremely hard to pull off which is why most lunatics are lone-wolf operatives.
Unless you count Pol Pot or North Korea as religious (communism can be a religion)
Literally all politics can be, religion is basically just a deeply-personally-held ethos.
Is there suppose to be something wrong with that last one?
You mean to tell me that people would ACTUALLY enter into a religious organization, rise through the ranks, make it to the top, purely so they gain wealth and power and dictate people's lives through their religious beliefs? No one would ever do that in the real world. I mean, you'd never hear any real life story of a religious leader convincing all his followers to kill themselves, or a religious leader convincing his followers to go on a murderous rampage for 1400 years. (Obvious sarcasm)
List five names in all of history off the top of your head who did that.
Also the Crusades don't count.
Sister Semple, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Jim Jones, That dude in Japan with the Sarin gas, Moon... just off the top of my head. That's just for "wealth and power" though, they rarely take over nations. Unless you count Pol Pot or North Korea as religious (communism can be a religion) takeovers?
Not that I agree with ilirrem or anything, but there have been quite a few over the years. They tend to self-destruct or lose appeal & followers rather quickly.
You fell for the psyop. Jonestown wasn't a religious enclave it was a communist one. And an enormous amount of time and energy was spent covering that up, and so everyone thinks it was some crazy Christian cult.
While it's pretty fucking awful to listen to, well, listen to the Jonestown audio. It makes it pretty clear.
Jonestown was literally founded as a place to live their perfect Communist utopia. A bunch of shit happened, and Jim Jones's enforcers ended up killing a congressman. Welp, Jim knew that that meant the USG was going to come absolutely fucking end them, so he gathered everyone together and busted out the Flavor-Ade.
The audio is like 10% religious and 90% him lamenting the failure of their communist dream. His #2 was some nigress and she talks about the horrors of 'racism' and 'capitalism' and that they all need to die to prove some kind of point.
And the first two barely count. Not sure why Aimee Semple is even on this list unless you are seriously intent on twisting the intent of the comic/llirrem's statement. And Elizabeth Clare Prophet was fairly harmless, just a moonbat who made people dig holes for an apocalypse that didn't happen.
All in all the point is that these kinds of people are ridiculously rare compared to how Le Enlightened Atheists like to pretend they are. Because guess what, it turns out getting a bunch of lunatics to go along with another lunatic is actually extremely hard to pull off which is why most lunatics are lone-wolf operatives.
Literally all politics can be, religion is basically just a deeply-personally-held ethos.