That presumes that random images from anonymous people should be believed unless proven otherwise. I don't believe that is a correct presumption. That is reversing the burden of proof.
You're still not answering what OP is wrong about in this image.
Because the criticism was aimed at believing this crap. I don't think it's my job to refute a zero-effort image which the retarded OP did not even create.
But if you want. It's incoherent. Suspicious of what? They can never answer.
That presumes that random images from anonymous people should be believed unless proven otherwise.
But they're true. You're criticizing OP for believing them.
Because the criticism was aimed at believing this crap.
Then you should have made that argument. Instead you went with a whiny and pointed one, and one that was incorrect, that gets no one on your side.
But if you want. It's incoherent. Suspicious of what? They can never answer.
Zionism and its influence? There are clear themes here, it's really not a hard answer. Also, yes, two or three images about Jews as a whole. Which I don't agree with, but to be fair has been made pretty hard to separate...by the Zionists.
Even if you don't buy the full thing (and I agree, you probably shouldn't), there's plenty here that are obvious problems. Why should US presidential candidates swear fealty to Israel? Why should you essentially get whisked away to Israel or Poland if you say something Israel doesn't like? Why are there laws and social media manipulation to protect Jews and Israel specifically? Why are you an enemy of Texas if you criticize Israel? Why is said governor of Texas signing unconstitutional speech restrictions...in a foreign country? And so much more.
Me: Because the criticism was aimed at believing this crap.
Then you should have made that argument
"Imagine blindly believing what you read online."
Well put, I think.
Zionism and its influence? There are clear themes here, it's really not a hard answer
Just 'Zionism'? Huh, pretty sure there was some holocaust denial in there. And attacks on American Jews.
Also, yes, two or three images about Jews as a whole. Which I don't agree with, but to be fair has been made pretty hard to separate...by the Zionists.
Not really. Unless you would agree with hard-line zionists that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism.
Even if you don't buy the full thing (and I agree, you probably shouldn't),
I doubt OP would agree with that.
Why should US presidential candidates swear fealty to Israel?
If that's it, then why is one of the images "Auschwitz survivor on TV"?
Why should they? Why do they? Probably because it's the popular position among voters, and more so because it's the popular position among moneyed interests. The policies of the military-industrial complex aren't exactly uncommon positions. Why was Donald Trump the first presidential candidate to break from the deeply unpopular 'foreign policy consensus'? And why was he not able to actually put his policies into practice when he became president the first time around, e.g. being friends with Russia?
Why are you an enemy of Texas if you criticize Israel?
Because it's a heavily evangelical state. Also, I'm pretty sure this is against boycotts of Israel by contractors of Texas. I don't find it quite as unreasonable to expect contractors to not boycott a country with public funds, though I'd rather that the "American right" target companies that boycott states in America for being sensible on troonydom.
Why is said governor of Texas signing unconstitutional speech restrictions...in a foreign country?
I think you could make a far more intelligent image than this. It helps to not be a gullible retard.
Except, again, the images are generally true, and you won't even refute it. That's why I'm saying it's not a convincing argument. You're saying OP shouldn't believe the image.
Just 'Zionism'?
I said primarily Zionism, and then went on to say - which you also quoted - that there was some general Jew stuff I don't even agree with. So, yeah, not "just Zionism," and I never said that.
Huh, pretty sure there was some holocaust denial in there.
Oh, come on. It's not holy, and I dislike any argument that tries to immediately shut down the discussion. It's like saying climate denial or science denial, or homophobia or racism. It's just an attack. You have two Holocaust-related pictures, as far as I can tell. The 'lampshades' thing, which has been pretty heavily debunked by now, as I understand, so at least that part should be "denied," because it's a lie. And then shower doors. Which is, if nothing else, weird. We can argue about how important it is, or what it means, but it's certainly strange. Am I denying the Holocaust too?
And attacks on American Jews.
Which?
Unless you would agree with hard-line zionists that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism.
I strongly disagree with them. But my point was they've muddied the waters. It doesn't matter if I agree or not, that's how many conversations go because others have been convinced. Jews and Zionism are obviously incredibly closely linked, and the Zionists love that, and do what they can to further conflate the two in all contexts.
I doubt OP would agree with that.
And I don't care. I wasn't here to agree with OP, I just didn't like your empty rebuttal, and wanted some clarification. For all I know OP thinks I'm a Zionist shill too. Wouldn't be the first time; I agree plenty on that side can be rather one-track, and you're either completely with them or completely against them. Again, I don't care what OP thinks. And it doesn't affect my argument in any way, if he agrees with me or not.
If that's it, then why is one of the images "Auschwitz survivor on TV"?
I don't know. I recognize the image, but don't remember the full context? What was she saying?
Also, the point I was making was about Zionist influence. Because I think that's the important part; why are so many US politicians swearing loyalty to a foreign power, and why are they so dedicated to stamping out specifically "antisemitism?" You say it's a popular position, but is it? To some extent, but does that make it better? Still seems like a massive problem, and "it's popular" isn't a good answer. Socialist "free shit" stuff like universal healthcare and UBI are fairly popular, since a bunch of people love the concept of "free" government gibs.
So, it doesn't matter if Zionism is "popular" or not, if it's a big problem. Which I'd argue it is. Just like I don't want government redistribution of wealth, I don't want my politicians loyal or beholden to a foreign power. That's a problem.
I think you could make a far more intelligent image than this. It helps to not be a gullible retard.
I probably could. But I'm just saying what the images OP posted represent. It's the same thing. That trip where Abbott got the Totally Bestest Zionist Ever award was the same trip he signed the antisemitism bill.
You didn't answer the question, at all. What shouldn't OP believe in this post?
I don't recognize every image, but all the ones I do are true, although how much significance you read into each can vary:
Sewer Jews.
Bobby "I'll be a great president for Israel" Kennedy.
Trump at the Wall, Elon at Auschwitz.
Antisemitism EOs.
The, uh, controversial religious ceremony, let's say.
USS Liberty.
JFK.
Wooden doors.
Censorship.
Another weird ceremony.
Texas Governor and "Friend of Zion," declaring that "Anybody who is an enemy of Israel is an enemy of Texas."
I've called them out on that repeatedly; it's stupid and obnoxious. You're still not answering what OP is wrong about in this image.
That presumes that random images from anonymous people should be believed unless proven otherwise. I don't believe that is a correct presumption. That is reversing the burden of proof.
Because the criticism was aimed at believing this crap. I don't think it's my job to refute a zero-effort image which the retarded OP did not even create.
But if you want. It's incoherent. Suspicious of what? They can never answer.
But they're true. You're criticizing OP for believing them.
Then you should have made that argument. Instead you went with a whiny and pointed one, and one that was incorrect, that gets no one on your side.
Zionism and its influence? There are clear themes here, it's really not a hard answer. Also, yes, two or three images about Jews as a whole. Which I don't agree with, but to be fair has been made pretty hard to separate...by the Zionists.
Even if you don't buy the full thing (and I agree, you probably shouldn't), there's plenty here that are obvious problems. Why should US presidential candidates swear fealty to Israel? Why should you essentially get whisked away to Israel or Poland if you say something Israel doesn't like? Why are there laws and social media manipulation to protect Jews and Israel specifically? Why are you an enemy of Texas if you criticize Israel? Why is said governor of Texas signing unconstitutional speech restrictions...in a foreign country? And so much more.
"Imagine blindly believing what you read online."
Well put, I think.
Just 'Zionism'? Huh, pretty sure there was some holocaust denial in there. And attacks on American Jews.
Not really. Unless you would agree with hard-line zionists that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism.
I doubt OP would agree with that.
If that's it, then why is one of the images "Auschwitz survivor on TV"?
Why should they? Why do they? Probably because it's the popular position among voters, and more so because it's the popular position among moneyed interests. The policies of the military-industrial complex aren't exactly uncommon positions. Why was Donald Trump the first presidential candidate to break from the deeply unpopular 'foreign policy consensus'? And why was he not able to actually put his policies into practice when he became president the first time around, e.g. being friends with Russia?
Because it's a heavily evangelical state. Also, I'm pretty sure this is against boycotts of Israel by contractors of Texas. I don't find it quite as unreasonable to expect contractors to not boycott a country with public funds, though I'd rather that the "American right" target companies that boycott states in America for being sensible on troonydom.
I think you could make a far more intelligent image than this. It helps to not be a gullible retard.
Except, again, the images are generally true, and you won't even refute it. That's why I'm saying it's not a convincing argument. You're saying OP shouldn't believe the image.
I said primarily Zionism, and then went on to say - which you also quoted - that there was some general Jew stuff I don't even agree with. So, yeah, not "just Zionism," and I never said that.
Oh, come on. It's not holy, and I dislike any argument that tries to immediately shut down the discussion. It's like saying climate denial or science denial, or homophobia or racism. It's just an attack. You have two Holocaust-related pictures, as far as I can tell. The 'lampshades' thing, which has been pretty heavily debunked by now, as I understand, so at least that part should be "denied," because it's a lie. And then shower doors. Which is, if nothing else, weird. We can argue about how important it is, or what it means, but it's certainly strange. Am I denying the Holocaust too?
Which?
I strongly disagree with them. But my point was they've muddied the waters. It doesn't matter if I agree or not, that's how many conversations go because others have been convinced. Jews and Zionism are obviously incredibly closely linked, and the Zionists love that, and do what they can to further conflate the two in all contexts.
And I don't care. I wasn't here to agree with OP, I just didn't like your empty rebuttal, and wanted some clarification. For all I know OP thinks I'm a Zionist shill too. Wouldn't be the first time; I agree plenty on that side can be rather one-track, and you're either completely with them or completely against them. Again, I don't care what OP thinks. And it doesn't affect my argument in any way, if he agrees with me or not.
I don't know. I recognize the image, but don't remember the full context? What was she saying?
Also, the point I was making was about Zionist influence. Because I think that's the important part; why are so many US politicians swearing loyalty to a foreign power, and why are they so dedicated to stamping out specifically "antisemitism?" You say it's a popular position, but is it? To some extent, but does that make it better? Still seems like a massive problem, and "it's popular" isn't a good answer. Socialist "free shit" stuff like universal healthcare and UBI are fairly popular, since a bunch of people love the concept of "free" government gibs.
So, it doesn't matter if Zionism is "popular" or not, if it's a big problem. Which I'd argue it is. Just like I don't want government redistribution of wealth, I don't want my politicians loyal or beholden to a foreign power. That's a problem.
I probably could. But I'm just saying what the images OP posted represent. It's the same thing. That trip where Abbott got the Totally Bestest Zionist Ever award was the same trip he signed the antisemitism bill.
Uh, oh, retard alert.