Strict sandwich leave: Not sure what this means. I assume it means "leaving your workstation to eat a quick lunch, such as a sandwich." I wish it wasn't so strict either, but I could go either way here. (EDIT: I have been corrected and now agree with the guy complaining!)
Mandatory 10-7 office timing: Dude, if YOU can't keep a schedule, that's YOUR problem. That said, when I worked in a big retail store in 2004, I did once get a minor chewing-out for NOT taking my break because I was so busy that day that I worked the whole nine hours. Credit to the store in question, but things are probably different now.
Salary deductions for late arrivals: See above. You're working less time, you're getting less pay. Arrive on time.
Time tracker for not moving mouse: Okay, THAT'S overboard, what the hell? I'm serious, what penny-pinching jackassery is this? I'm with the complaining guy! What if you have to pee?!
Not allowed to change password or access work email credentials: Very odd, especially the latter. Valid complaint.
CEO's office auto-locked: I get the big man wants his privacy, but a trustworthy man would want to listen to and address concerns, in my eyes. What's the boss afraid of? What's he hiding?
Quitting requiring 15 days notice: Isn't this standard policy? Give them two weeks to find someone to replace you? That's what I've always heard.
Overall, not as bad as I was fearing, but I still understand this guy's concerns, and get why he left.
Full disclosure: I have never worked an office job, so there could be a LOT that I'm missing. Maybe this particular job really is as painful and draining as he says it is. Still, again, I get why he doesn't want it.
Looked it up. It's a totally ridiculous policy IMHO. Here's an example:
You ask for this Friday off. You ask for next Monday off. You already had the weekend off.
They approve it. Four days of leave are deducted from your allotment.
It means weekends sandwiched by leave count as leave. They're burning your leave for days that you already had off.
The password thing is double-edged. Let them change it and they'll pick something easy to guess. Don't let them change it and they'll put a post-it note with the password on the laptop because they can't remember it. Letting the user change it, but enforcing strength requirements is about the best you can do before going to biometrics or physical keys.
Looked it up. It's a totally ridiculous policy IMHO. Here's an example:
You ask for this Friday off. You ask for next Monday off. You already had the weekend off.
They approve it. Four days of leave are deducted from your allotment.
It's a bit much. But I've also never felt the need to try to "sandwich" anything. Why take both days off? Take Thursday off if you want a four day weekend. Or don't, and enjoy a three day weekend. Five day "weekend" is silly.
Because most people plan "Events" on the weekends, so if you need to travel and don't want to be rushing there and back, its a smart idea to take Fri/Mon off so you can spend each of those days traveling for whatever was planned and have time to relax and get into the groove of whatever is going down.
If my buddy has a wedding on Saturday two states over, I'll drive friday, party saturday, sober up sunday, and then go home monday. And then I am not limping into work exhausted from a long trip I had to push through.
I think it was the NSA which would do regular mandatory password changes and then occasionally throw you out of your office to do a physical search for things like passwords on post-its. But yes, people choose awful passwords all the time, I assume it's even worse when it's protecting assets that aren't even theirs. Having strict password policies in the workplace makes sense.
Salary deductions for late arrivals: See above. You're working less time, you're getting less pay.
I'm assuming you either live in some country that uses different terms or haven't had a salaried job, but salaried employees are explicitly not paid based on the hours they work. Of course this also means they aren't paid anything for working overtime.
I had to look it up, but "sandwich leave" is when you take off both days around a holiday, apparently. Yeah, just do better.
"Whaaaa, I'd normally only get a three day weekend, but if I take one day off I get a four day weekend...but if I take two days off I get a five day weekend...you're oppressing me by punishing me for doing this!" Absolutely pathetic nonsense.
Dude, if YOU can't keep a schedule, that's YOUR problem.
Absolutely.
That said, when I worked in retail, I did once get a minor chewing-out for NOT taking my break because I was so busy...
Been there. One of my bosses was inexperienced (I was his first employee) and, once I'd left, apparently missed me dearly and said I was worth two or three of these other retards he had to hire. Humble brag, but there you go.
Damn, I was getting annoyed when he was getting frustrated when I wanted to reach a good stopping point, and was volunteering my time to wrap things up and make my next work day smoother. Dude, just step back, let me cook. I got this. I'm not asking for overtime, I'm not asking for time at all. Let me clock out at 5:05, 5:10. Who cares? I'm still charging you eight hours.
Time tracker for not moving mouse: Okay, THAT'S overboard, what the hell?
Yeah, fuck this.
Not allowed to change password
It's a work computer.
Overall, not as bad as I was fearing, but I still understand this guy's concerns, and get why he left.
Cause he was a communist loser?
EDIT: Not sure why this got downvoted, but fuck all y'all! I'm in that sort of mood. Come at me, bro.
Work computer, okay, fair. Don't want to lock people out of the computer out of spite before you leave. They probably had someone do exactly that once.
Cause he was a communist loser?
That can be true AND there can be valid concerns here. Not mutually exclusive.
But again, I've never worked an office job. It sounds like hell, though.
That said, when I worked in a big retail store in 2004, I did once get a minor chewing-out for NOT taking my break because I was so busy that day that I worked the whole nine hours.
There are a lot of strict laws about breaks and the like that have been passed over the years. Every state is variable but the majority of them are something close to "if you work 5+ hours, you legally must take a 30 minute lunch break" with some amount of paid coffee breaks also required to be offered.
I know this because back in the day I would prefer to just work when I was at work so I could get my shit done and leave, and I would be forced under threat of termination to get off the clock for a lunch in the middle of my shit.
It was infuriating, but its the law and even more infuriatingly a law that we need to prevent businesses from working people ridiculously.
That explains why the guy above me was so adamant.
It was a Wal-Mart, by the way--the old standard model was about to close and the new Super (which is now the standard model) was opening up in town, so they were on a hiring spree.
God, those cheers they made us do in orientation and the break room. So corny. Ugh.
Major corporations are the most strict about it because they try to "one size" the policy within the company to hit every state's regulation so they don't have to have a shit ton on the books for every different states. Double so if they also have to comply with a union too.
I'm thankful I never had to work a Walmart, my retail store days were bad enough without all the humiliation rituals they put those boys through.
Let's go through these one by one.
Strict sandwich leave: Not sure what this means. I assume it means "leaving your workstation to eat a quick lunch, such as a sandwich." I wish it wasn't so strict either, but I could go either way here. (EDIT: I have been corrected and now agree with the guy complaining!)
Mandatory 10-7 office timing: Dude, if YOU can't keep a schedule, that's YOUR problem. That said, when I worked in a big retail store in 2004, I did once get a minor chewing-out for NOT taking my break because I was so busy that day that I worked the whole nine hours. Credit to the store in question, but things are probably different now.
Salary deductions for late arrivals: See above. You're working less time, you're getting less pay. Arrive on time.
Time tracker for not moving mouse: Okay, THAT'S overboard, what the hell? I'm serious, what penny-pinching jackassery is this? I'm with the complaining guy! What if you have to pee?!
Not allowed to change password or access work email credentials: Very odd, especially the latter. Valid complaint.
CEO's office auto-locked: I get the big man wants his privacy, but a trustworthy man would want to listen to and address concerns, in my eyes. What's the boss afraid of? What's he hiding?
Quitting requiring 15 days notice: Isn't this standard policy? Give them two weeks to find someone to replace you? That's what I've always heard.
Overall, not as bad as I was fearing, but I still understand this guy's concerns, and get why he left.
Full disclosure: I have never worked an office job, so there could be a LOT that I'm missing. Maybe this particular job really is as painful and draining as he says it is. Still, again, I get why he doesn't want it.
Looked it up. It's a totally ridiculous policy IMHO. Here's an example:
You ask for this Friday off. You ask for next Monday off. You already had the weekend off.
They approve it. Four days of leave are deducted from your allotment.
It means weekends sandwiched by leave count as leave. They're burning your leave for days that you already had off.
The password thing is double-edged. Let them change it and they'll pick something easy to guess. Don't let them change it and they'll put a post-it note with the password on the laptop because they can't remember it. Letting the user change it, but enforcing strength requirements is about the best you can do before going to biometrics or physical keys.
Wow. If that's what sandwich leave is, then I agree with this guy!
Sadly, I doubt there are any good guys in this scenario.
It's a bit much. But I've also never felt the need to try to "sandwich" anything. Why take both days off? Take Thursday off if you want a four day weekend. Or don't, and enjoy a three day weekend. Five day "weekend" is silly.
Because most people plan "Events" on the weekends, so if you need to travel and don't want to be rushing there and back, its a smart idea to take Fri/Mon off so you can spend each of those days traveling for whatever was planned and have time to relax and get into the groove of whatever is going down.
If my buddy has a wedding on Saturday two states over, I'll drive friday, party saturday, sober up sunday, and then go home monday. And then I am not limping into work exhausted from a long trip I had to push through.
Because Monday is culturally speaking a psychological barrier for many.
I think it was the NSA which would do regular mandatory password changes and then occasionally throw you out of your office to do a physical search for things like passwords on post-its. But yes, people choose awful passwords all the time, I assume it's even worse when it's protecting assets that aren't even theirs. Having strict password policies in the workplace makes sense.
I'm assuming you either live in some country that uses different terms or haven't had a salaried job, but salaried employees are explicitly not paid based on the hours they work. Of course this also means they aren't paid anything for working overtime.
I had to look it up, but "sandwich leave" is when you take off both days around a holiday, apparently. Yeah, just do better.
"Whaaaa, I'd normally only get a three day weekend, but if I take one day off I get a four day weekend...but if I take two days off I get a five day weekend...you're oppressing me by punishing me for doing this!" Absolutely pathetic nonsense.
Absolutely.
Been there. One of my bosses was inexperienced (I was his first employee) and, once I'd left, apparently missed me dearly and said I was worth two or three of these other retards he had to hire. Humble brag, but there you go.
Damn, I was getting annoyed when he was getting frustrated when I wanted to reach a good stopping point, and was volunteering my time to wrap things up and make my next work day smoother. Dude, just step back, let me cook. I got this. I'm not asking for overtime, I'm not asking for time at all. Let me clock out at 5:05, 5:10. Who cares? I'm still charging you eight hours.
Yeah, fuck this.
It's a work computer.
Cause he was a communist loser?
EDIT: Not sure why this got downvoted, but fuck all y'all! I'm in that sort of mood. Come at me, bro.
Work computer, okay, fair. Don't want to lock people out of the computer out of spite before you leave. They probably had someone do exactly that once.
That can be true AND there can be valid concerns here. Not mutually exclusive.
But again, I've never worked an office job. It sounds like hell, though.
See my other comments. I'm not defending and of this, per se, just thinking we're getting this from a biased loser.
Also fair.
This isn't how it works at all, you changing your password doesn't affect the companies ability to get into the computer whatsoever.
There are a lot of strict laws about breaks and the like that have been passed over the years. Every state is variable but the majority of them are something close to "if you work 5+ hours, you legally must take a 30 minute lunch break" with some amount of paid coffee breaks also required to be offered.
I know this because back in the day I would prefer to just work when I was at work so I could get my shit done and leave, and I would be forced under threat of termination to get off the clock for a lunch in the middle of my shit.
It was infuriating, but its the law and even more infuriatingly a law that we need to prevent businesses from working people ridiculously.
That explains why the guy above me was so adamant.
It was a Wal-Mart, by the way--the old standard model was about to close and the new Super (which is now the standard model) was opening up in town, so they were on a hiring spree.
God, those cheers they made us do in orientation and the break room. So corny. Ugh.
Major corporations are the most strict about it because they try to "one size" the policy within the company to hit every state's regulation so they don't have to have a shit ton on the books for every different states. Double so if they also have to comply with a union too.
I'm thankful I never had to work a Walmart, my retail store days were bad enough without all the humiliation rituals they put those boys through.