They really do miss the forest through the trees, often. And, if you look at the funding alone, and not pandering to the base...Biden was the most pro-Israel president ever. The people who whine about Trump never even seem to think about that.
And, while there's no denying that Trump seems to love Israel, and does want to support them, and talks them up...I don't think this is just naive wishful thinking, but he really doesn't seem as fanatical as many Zionists. He seems to at times be willing to question things, which isn't the sign of a fanatic. He still falls into the Greatest Ally trap, but he's not an asshole about it, and I think he really does put America first generally.
Perfect really is the enemy of the good with some of these people. It really is wild they seem to hate Trump more than people who openly hate us and want us dead. Is Trump too cozy with Israel for my taste? Absolutely. But, since I'm not a retard, I judge on a curve; all presidents generally are cozy with Israel, so it's disappointing but not disqualifying, and Trump is doing plenty of good stuff, unlike past presidents. Trump is head and shoulders above the rest. Which, again, doesn't mean he's perfect, and doesn't mean I worship him and I'm an Orange Man cultist, which is the go-to attack when you say nice things about him.
Trump's doing good work so far, and I freaking love it.
Biden was the most pro-Israel president ever. The people who whine about Trump never even seem to think about that.
I think you could make an argument for both based on what factors you consider most relevant. Trump certainly has made more overt gestures in their name which I say pushes him as the most, but funding wise you are correct in saying Biden. But lazily throwing money at an issue without anything else is a classic Biden move (and Obama who he learned it from).
he really doesn't seem as fanatical as many Zionists.
He seems capable of holding more than one idea at once, and not immediately dropping everything the moment he has to support one. Something a lot of people in general seem to lack. Its why he was able to say "take over Gaza" instead of "give it to Israel." One of those is completely cucking to them in exchange for our money/lives, the other could arguably benefit us and them. Even if I disagree entirely with that argument, its still a position you could take.
It really is wild they seem to hate Trump more than people who openly hate us and want us dead.
People still quote Fuentes and defend him as a real powerful voice for America. This is ignoring that he tried to leverage his base to turn on Trump to get Kamala elected because Trump wasn't anti-Jew enough for him, and that's his entire metric. We would have to let the Lefties run roughshod through our world for another 4 years just because Trump doesn't hate Jews enough.
They are absolutely identical to the "and they find it funny" types, and the fact that people who should know better don't recognize that is insane.
Which, again, doesn't mean he's perfect, and doesn't mean I worship him and I'm an Orange Man cultist, which is the go-to attack when you say nice things about him.
Agreed, I'll even say his blindspot for Israel is a major issue with him and is an active detriment in a lot of ways. But I can recognize he is making most else better along side that, and that a proper antisemitic candidate cannot be elected (and thus has no power) in this generation. Not yet.
And Vance, if we are assuming he is the followup, is a lot of "seems too good to be true" but so far that's more paranoia instead of concrete suspicion.
And Vance, if we are assuming he is the followup, is a lot of "seems too good to be true" but so far that's more paranoia instead of concrete suspicion.
To be fair, when it comes to politicians paranoia is often proven correct. But we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
They really do miss the forest through the trees, often. And, if you look at the funding alone, and not pandering to the base...Biden was the most pro-Israel president ever. The people who whine about Trump never even seem to think about that.
And, while there's no denying that Trump seems to love Israel, and does want to support them, and talks them up...I don't think this is just naive wishful thinking, but he really doesn't seem as fanatical as many Zionists. He seems to at times be willing to question things, which isn't the sign of a fanatic. He still falls into the Greatest Ally trap, but he's not an asshole about it, and I think he really does put America first generally.
Perfect really is the enemy of the good with some of these people. It really is wild they seem to hate Trump more than people who openly hate us and want us dead. Is Trump too cozy with Israel for my taste? Absolutely. But, since I'm not a retard, I judge on a curve; all presidents generally are cozy with Israel, so it's disappointing but not disqualifying, and Trump is doing plenty of good stuff, unlike past presidents. Trump is head and shoulders above the rest. Which, again, doesn't mean he's perfect, and doesn't mean I worship him and I'm an Orange Man cultist, which is the go-to attack when you say nice things about him.
Trump's doing good work so far, and I freaking love it.
I think you could make an argument for both based on what factors you consider most relevant. Trump certainly has made more overt gestures in their name which I say pushes him as the most, but funding wise you are correct in saying Biden. But lazily throwing money at an issue without anything else is a classic Biden move (and Obama who he learned it from).
He seems capable of holding more than one idea at once, and not immediately dropping everything the moment he has to support one. Something a lot of people in general seem to lack. Its why he was able to say "take over Gaza" instead of "give it to Israel." One of those is completely cucking to them in exchange for our money/lives, the other could arguably benefit us and them. Even if I disagree entirely with that argument, its still a position you could take.
People still quote Fuentes and defend him as a real powerful voice for America. This is ignoring that he tried to leverage his base to turn on Trump to get Kamala elected because Trump wasn't anti-Jew enough for him, and that's his entire metric. We would have to let the Lefties run roughshod through our world for another 4 years just because Trump doesn't hate Jews enough.
They are absolutely identical to the "and they find it funny" types, and the fact that people who should know better don't recognize that is insane.
Agreed, I'll even say his blindspot for Israel is a major issue with him and is an active detriment in a lot of ways. But I can recognize he is making most else better along side that, and that a proper antisemitic candidate cannot be elected (and thus has no power) in this generation. Not yet.
And Vance, if we are assuming he is the followup, is a lot of "seems too good to be true" but so far that's more paranoia instead of concrete suspicion.
To be fair, when it comes to politicians paranoia is often proven correct. But we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.