Want to correct your ignorance? Or are you happy with those blue pills?
How about you start with: The War Against Boys: How Misguided Policies are Harming Our Young Men by Christina Hoff Sommers.
I don't agree with Dr. Hoff Sommers on everything, but she is right that the education system is a) Run by women from top to bottom and b) Systematically discriminates against boys. Is that how women show respect? Or not?
From there you can go and look into how the bottom 80% of males are just, flat out invisible to women in the dating market. It is well supported by scientific study, and it is leading directly to population implosion in a bunch of nations. It is supported by the human genetic record that shows that only 40% of men (on average) have ever gotten to pass on their genes. 60% just don't ever get a opportunity for fatherhood. That didn't change until relatively recently in human history, and enforced monogamy is (IMNHO) a required precursor to human civilization arising from stone tools and mud huts.
After that you can look at how feminism is the dominant political paradigm. Political parties that don't at least pay lip-service to feminist ideology don't get elected. It is why the Democrats have been so successful, politically, for so long. Abortion is an issue for women. Men, in general, don't care very much. Freedom from the consequences of biology is very much fitting with the political movement of Feminism.
As you are aware, the central thesis of feminism is that men have the power to construct society as they choose; and that they have chose to construct a society with the primary purpose of oppressing women. This is the foundation of feminist scholarship, and we have seen a dramatic feminizing of universities, with more women professors than ever and the female graduates in history. All having been fed this propaganda of oppression and victimhood, painting men as unrepentant oppressors.
The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpation on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her.
Do men, as a class receive respect for establishing absolute tyranny over women? Do women think they should?
Having worked extensively in female dominated professions, I find, in general, the respect the average woman holds for a blue collar man (which are most of them by numbers) to be shockingly low. In my experience, the respect is lower still from women who were raised by a single mother.
Finally, I'd point out the number of women who are willing to endure a fair and equitable settlement, especially with regard to children, at the end of a marriage; basically none. If women are stuffed so full of respect and admiration for men, why do they treat the fathers of their children so badly, so often?
But I imagine having frothy coffee with fag-hags when you find time between sucking dicks gives you a different perspective.
I don't agree with Dr. Hoff Sommers on everything, but she is right that the education system is a) Run by women from top to bottom and b) Systematically discriminates against boys. Is that how women show respect? Or not?
That's a subset of women.
From there you can go and look into how the bottom 80% of males are just, flat out invisible to women in the dating market.
Even if true, are they not allowed to have preferences? Men sure do.
It is supported by the human genetic record that shows that only 40% of men (on average) have ever gotten to pass on their genes. 60% just don't ever get a opportunity for fatherhood.
Of men who ever lived? Otherwise, a little bit of logical thought would show that this is impossible. Also, this has little to do with whether women respect men who are worthy of respect.
Abortion is an issue for women. Men, in general, don't care very much.
Men don't want to have to pay for decades for the children of some ho.
As you are aware, the central thesis of feminism is that men have the power to construct society as they choose; and that they have chose to construct a society with the primary purpose of oppressing women. This is the foundation of feminist scholarship, and we have seen a dramatic feminizing of universities, with more women professors than ever and the female graduates in history. All having been fed this propaganda of oppression and victimhood, painting men as unrepentant oppressors.
Well, yeah. Feminism is nuts, as is every other identitarian movement. But why would you go from that to making an argument about women in general?
Do men, as a class receive respect for establishing absolute tyranny over women?
Tyrants are only respected for as long as they rule. You never get credit for voluntarily relinquishing power. The same is true with feminism, it's never enough, no matter how many privileges you give them. They want what biology makes unattainable, in their claims, but in reality they just want power and perpetual victimhood is a means to that.
I find, in general, the respect the average woman holds for a blue collar man (which are most of them by numbers) to be shockingly low.
That may be true, and wrong. I think that blue collar workers in general receive far too little respect.
If women are stuffed so full of respect and admiration for men, why do they treat the fathers of their children so badly, so often?
I never said that. I find that as dumb as 'respecting women'. Some women are worthy of respect. They should be respected. Others are worthy of the lowest contempt. They should be treated with the utmost contempt. Same with men. I assume that if the woman found the man so admirable, they wouldn't divorce him.
All I said to find yourself a woman who is worthy of worship, and be the kind of man a woman like that would worship. Does that imply that most, let alone all, women are admirable or admire an admirable man, let alone admire all men?
is this you inching towards conceding a point? That, in general, women don't find men, as a group, worthy of respect? I'm shocked. Truly, genuinely shocked. I could have sworn that no amount of evidence nor negative experience could disabuse you of your rampant feminine worship.
We live in the most gynocentric society in history by more than a standard deviation. Never has society spent so much effort and resources to give women exactly what they say they want. Never has the base, essential nature of women been so clearly revealed. In general, the women of today are doing exactly what they want. They have never had so much power over men as they do today in the western world. The way women, in general, treat men is exactly how they want. The marriage rate has never been lower. Divorce has never been higher. Both of these are behaviors mediated by women.
Children have never had less access to their fathers. Women are the majority of university graduates, and in major cities, women under 30 make more money than men of the same demographic. Western women have never in history been so incredibly, insatiably promiscuous. Worldwide, abortion is now the #1 cause of death as a direct result. Yet despite all of this disposable, junk-food sex, the birthrate has bottomed out as a direct consequence of giving women exactly what they want. It turns out what women want, in general, is to fuck and party and to not have any responsibility to other people through marriage or family; which by the way, is exactly congruent with the core principles of feminism.
Your usual response seems to be to say "Not all women!" and "lol. Do better men." And to ban the Imp.
Despite your protestations, broad trends can be noticed. Women (as a group) absolutely need to be held accountable. Part of that is that women (as a group) see men as disposable as facial tissues and (in general) not worthy of respect; with a few exceptions made for chads.
It isn't rocket science to figure out where these trends lead. They lead fairly directly to the implosion of major cultures and the end of nations. Three or four generations after the "sexual revolution" and the invention of the hormonal birth control pill, giving women exactly what they want ends civilization. But "Not all women" amirite?
Want to know the successful recipe for finding a woman who values marriage and engages in a mutual, beneficial partnership forever?
It requires carefully selecting a partner to minimize western, cultural influences.
There are tells and traits that separate high quality wives from low quality women. These are not preferences, they are indicators that predict the future of a relationship. Some are more accurate than others, but together they can give a fairly sound picture.
Want to minimize your chance of divorce? It turns out that your wife should be a virgin with a strong religious and family background. That she should dress modestly and have a good relationship with both her mother and her father. Her parents should not be divorced. She should not have tattoos or piercings.
Hopefully she should have studied the bible and seriously considered the lessons that it teaches about both men and women and especially marriage. She should want children and be trained in all of the skills to run a household. The foremost of these is that she should be skilled in financial planning and the prudent use of money. Many divorces cite financial difficulty (fights about money) as a point of friction. It turns out both partners being able to cook and manage money helps avoid that.
It may be possible to find such a woman in a Western country. I suspect that you'll have to go to a small, rural town. In most cases her attending a major university is a negative factor, because the modern academy is equal parts slut factory and indoctrination center. It takes a very exceptional woman to make it through university without being corrupted by the steady marination in promiscuous sexual influences and the steady diet of neo-Marxist bullshit.
"lol, just go find a unicorn!" Does this give some context to your advice?
If my parents had taken any effort at all to teach me how to spot a good wife, then I would have been saved vast amounts of suffering. Instead, they went out of their way to do the exact opposite. "Women are good people"; "Why would a women ever lie about that?"; "Just follow your feelings"; "Your heart will tell you when you've met the right person."
The truth is that very few western women are worthy of our respect and vastly less are wife material. Women are mostly self-indulgent children who think with their feelings and have utterly destroyed their ability to pair-bond through promiscuity. Being a woman should not be an excuse for being a shitty person and a rotten, self center parent; yet it is. Society will not tolerate women, in general or specific, being held accountable. Instead their bad behavior is both celebrated and funded by the taxpayer.
At the same time Mens' groups (incels, gamers, MRAs) are added to literal terrorist watchlists and investigated by Three Letter Agencies; while people like you minimize the broader issues and say things like "not all women!"
Want to correct your ignorance? Or are you happy with those blue pills?
How about you start with: The War Against Boys: How Misguided Policies are Harming Our Young Men by Christina Hoff Sommers.
I don't agree with Dr. Hoff Sommers on everything, but she is right that the education system is a) Run by women from top to bottom and b) Systematically discriminates against boys. Is that how women show respect? Or not?
From there you can go and look into how the bottom 80% of males are just, flat out invisible to women in the dating market. It is well supported by scientific study, and it is leading directly to population implosion in a bunch of nations. It is supported by the human genetic record that shows that only 40% of men (on average) have ever gotten to pass on their genes. 60% just don't ever get a opportunity for fatherhood. That didn't change until relatively recently in human history, and enforced monogamy is (IMNHO) a required precursor to human civilization arising from stone tools and mud huts.
After that you can look at how feminism is the dominant political paradigm. Political parties that don't at least pay lip-service to feminist ideology don't get elected. It is why the Democrats have been so successful, politically, for so long. Abortion is an issue for women. Men, in general, don't care very much. Freedom from the consequences of biology is very much fitting with the political movement of Feminism.
As you are aware, the central thesis of feminism is that men have the power to construct society as they choose; and that they have chose to construct a society with the primary purpose of oppressing women. This is the foundation of feminist scholarship, and we have seen a dramatic feminizing of universities, with more women professors than ever and the female graduates in history. All having been fed this propaganda of oppression and victimhood, painting men as unrepentant oppressors.
Do men, as a class receive respect for establishing absolute tyranny over women? Do women think they should?
Having worked extensively in female dominated professions, I find, in general, the respect the average woman holds for a blue collar man (which are most of them by numbers) to be shockingly low. In my experience, the respect is lower still from women who were raised by a single mother.
Finally, I'd point out the number of women who are willing to endure a fair and equitable settlement, especially with regard to children, at the end of a marriage; basically none. If women are stuffed so full of respect and admiration for men, why do they treat the fathers of their children so badly, so often?
But I imagine having frothy coffee with fag-hags when you find time between sucking dicks gives you a different perspective.
That's a subset of women.
Even if true, are they not allowed to have preferences? Men sure do.
Of men who ever lived? Otherwise, a little bit of logical thought would show that this is impossible. Also, this has little to do with whether women respect men who are worthy of respect.
Men don't want to have to pay for decades for the children of some ho.
Well, yeah. Feminism is nuts, as is every other identitarian movement. But why would you go from that to making an argument about women in general?
Tyrants are only respected for as long as they rule. You never get credit for voluntarily relinquishing power. The same is true with feminism, it's never enough, no matter how many privileges you give them. They want what biology makes unattainable, in their claims, but in reality they just want power and perpetual victimhood is a means to that.
That may be true, and wrong. I think that blue collar workers in general receive far too little respect.
I never said that. I find that as dumb as 'respecting women'. Some women are worthy of respect. They should be respected. Others are worthy of the lowest contempt. They should be treated with the utmost contempt. Same with men. I assume that if the woman found the man so admirable, they wouldn't divorce him.
All I said to find yourself a woman who is worthy of worship, and be the kind of man a woman like that would worship. Does that imply that most, let alone all, women are admirable or admire an admirable man, let alone admire all men?
Tony,
is this you inching towards conceding a point? That, in general, women don't find men, as a group, worthy of respect? I'm shocked. Truly, genuinely shocked. I could have sworn that no amount of evidence nor negative experience could disabuse you of your rampant feminine worship.
We live in the most gynocentric society in history by more than a standard deviation. Never has society spent so much effort and resources to give women exactly what they say they want. Never has the base, essential nature of women been so clearly revealed. In general, the women of today are doing exactly what they want. They have never had so much power over men as they do today in the western world. The way women, in general, treat men is exactly how they want. The marriage rate has never been lower. Divorce has never been higher. Both of these are behaviors mediated by women.
Children have never had less access to their fathers. Women are the majority of university graduates, and in major cities, women under 30 make more money than men of the same demographic. Western women have never in history been so incredibly, insatiably promiscuous. Worldwide, abortion is now the #1 cause of death as a direct result. Yet despite all of this disposable, junk-food sex, the birthrate has bottomed out as a direct consequence of giving women exactly what they want. It turns out what women want, in general, is to fuck and party and to not have any responsibility to other people through marriage or family; which by the way, is exactly congruent with the core principles of feminism.
Your usual response seems to be to say "Not all women!" and "lol. Do better men." And to ban the Imp.
Despite your protestations, broad trends can be noticed. Women (as a group) absolutely need to be held accountable. Part of that is that women (as a group) see men as disposable as facial tissues and (in general) not worthy of respect; with a few exceptions made for chads.
It isn't rocket science to figure out where these trends lead. They lead fairly directly to the implosion of major cultures and the end of nations. Three or four generations after the "sexual revolution" and the invention of the hormonal birth control pill, giving women exactly what they want ends civilization. But "Not all women" amirite?
Want to know the successful recipe for finding a woman who values marriage and engages in a mutual, beneficial partnership forever?
It requires carefully selecting a partner to minimize western, cultural influences.
There are tells and traits that separate high quality wives from low quality women. These are not preferences, they are indicators that predict the future of a relationship. Some are more accurate than others, but together they can give a fairly sound picture.
Want to minimize your chance of divorce? It turns out that your wife should be a virgin with a strong religious and family background. That she should dress modestly and have a good relationship with both her mother and her father. Her parents should not be divorced. She should not have tattoos or piercings.
Hopefully she should have studied the bible and seriously considered the lessons that it teaches about both men and women and especially marriage. She should want children and be trained in all of the skills to run a household. The foremost of these is that she should be skilled in financial planning and the prudent use of money. Many divorces cite financial difficulty (fights about money) as a point of friction. It turns out both partners being able to cook and manage money helps avoid that.
It may be possible to find such a woman in a Western country. I suspect that you'll have to go to a small, rural town. In most cases her attending a major university is a negative factor, because the modern academy is equal parts slut factory and indoctrination center. It takes a very exceptional woman to make it through university without being corrupted by the steady marination in promiscuous sexual influences and the steady diet of neo-Marxist bullshit.
"lol, just go find a unicorn!" Does this give some context to your advice?
If my parents had taken any effort at all to teach me how to spot a good wife, then I would have been saved vast amounts of suffering. Instead, they went out of their way to do the exact opposite. "Women are good people"; "Why would a women ever lie about that?"; "Just follow your feelings"; "Your heart will tell you when you've met the right person."
The truth is that very few western women are worthy of our respect and vastly less are wife material. Women are mostly self-indulgent children who think with their feelings and have utterly destroyed their ability to pair-bond through promiscuity. Being a woman should not be an excuse for being a shitty person and a rotten, self center parent; yet it is. Society will not tolerate women, in general or specific, being held accountable. Instead their bad behavior is both celebrated and funded by the taxpayer.
At the same time Mens' groups (incels, gamers, MRAs) are added to literal terrorist watchlists and investigated by Three Letter Agencies; while people like you minimize the broader issues and say things like "not all women!"
Okay. I agree. Not all women.
Cool story bro.