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I agree with the Zendaya bit. The rest of your opinion might be the worst take on the internet lol. Even if you don't like some aspects of the movie, it was as faithful as an adaptation as you can get and it was a million times better than the trash Dune movies that came before
The Dune adaptation where the Spacing Guild gets basically ignored is a faithful adaption? Where Fremen are downgraded to some shitty ass freedom fighters? Where Paul is turned into faggoty whiny emo kid and Chani into some retarded fucking yass slay queen power bitch? And Baron Harkonnen is just some floaty bald fat guy who bathes in mud? Liet-Kyne is a black women and not even the related to Chani? And don't even get me started on Piter de Vries. Or Lasguns are used indiscriminately despite the fact that it is even stated in the movie that if a lasgun hits a shield we get a nuclear explosion?
I could go on and on and on. Dunc is the worst fucking adaption by far. Not even Lynches version is as dogshit as Dunc. The mini series still remains the absolute best Dune adaption by miles we've gotten so far despite being 25 years old and its effects having aged horribly.
Read the books. If you have, read them again. I honestly don't understand how anyone who likes the books can pretend that Dunc is a faithful adaptation.
I enjoyed the first one (knowing that it was only slightly more faithful than the theatrical cut of the Lynch version.) But they just removed so much from the second that I'm not enthused for the upcoming ones.
And yeah, the miniseries is the best adaptation we're ever likely to get.
Just because it is a bad adaptation doesn't mean you can't enjoy the movie. The Lnych version is most definitely a bad adaptation but I do enjoy it, especially the fan cut. And at least it got the foundation (mostly) right.
The "space baroque" art style is way more inventive and attractive than the basic bitch grey modern art sci-fi of the new one
The cinematography is fantastic, but everything else about it is shit.
Especially Zendaya! Let’s not forget about the hideous hirsute hangry ho.
The jewish twink is worse.
You sound a bit like that really fun guy everyone loves who smugly states "the book was better" every single time a movie based on a book you've read comes out lol. I could go on for hours about how Lord of the Rings changed and removed a lot of stuff from the books (significantly more than Dune), and yet it was one of the greatest trilogies ever filmed. As a result I can appreciate both the book and the movie as separate entities.
Dune was a great book. Unfortunately the series was fucking wiiiild, but I digress. Dune the movie is objectively beautifully filmed and scored, well acted, and highly engaging. And yeah, it sticks to the meat and potatoes of the story of the book without losing anything of serious value. It's still a much better adaptation than Eragon (though the book wasn't super great anyway, iRobot, the Dark Tower, World War Z, and dozens of others I just can't think of at the moment. If you watched Dune before reading it, I have a feeling you would feel differently. Unfortunately, no movie can live up to a good imagination.
With that said, I don't want to sound like one of the woketards that defended The Last Jedi. Your criticisms are valid, I just think you're putting too much weight into them and not looking at the overall picture. It's by no means a perfect film, but Dune is pretty damn good
No, I wouldn't because we're talking about whether or not it was a faithful adaption. Even if I hadn't read the books I would still dislike the movie. Why? Because it bored me. I don't give a damn about nice cinematography if the movie bores me.
No. It fucking doesn't. That's my point. Dune 1984 actually sticks to the meat and potatoes of the story but makes some very strange addition and changes. Dunc on the other hand throws out the meat and potatoes and shits on what remained.
That is absolute horse shit.
The Spacing Guild might not have the most prominent role in the first book of Dune but it has one of the if not THE most important role. Removing them from an adaptation is not just a minor detail that was changed you break the very foundation of Dune itself.
Why is Arrakis important? Because spice. Why is spice important? Because it is necessary for space travel. Who has the monopoly on space travel? The Spacing Guild which makes them one of the four great powers in Dune alongside the Landsraad, the Bene Gesserit and the Emperor. Who produces spice? The worms via the spice cycle. How does Paul become Emperor and keep control over his new empire? By literally threatening to kill all worms on Arrakis to end the spice cycle. That's the reason why the Spacing Guild forbids the Landsraad armies to disembark and forces the Emperor to abdicate. Which in turn starts the Jihad because many houses of the Landsraad weren't very happy with that outcome.
You remove the Spacing Guild and the entire story collapses. They're not a minor or even major detail that you can change. They're a foundational pillar of the entire story.
Dune isn't just "hurrr hurrr space cocaine and desert planet". Dunc is Star Wars. Not Dune.
If you like the movie that's fine. Enjoyment is subjective. But don't pretend that Dunc is a faithful adaptation. It objectively isn't.
And do not tell me it isn't possible to faithfully adapt Dune on the big screen with 321 minutes of runtime when the 25 year old TV mini series managed to do it with almost an hour less runtime (273 minutes).
Make up your mind dude. You said the spacing guild was hardly in the first book, yet you criticize the movie for not giving them extra screen time? And if that's the best example of why you don't like the movie, then you're autistic lol. It was very clear to me that they space guild was important. Even if they didn't explain everything in that specific movie, the space guild is still important and can easily be expanded in the 2nd movie.
If your sole determination factor of whether or not a film is good is if the movie is exactly fucking like the book or not, do the world a favor and stop watching movies. The same goes if you feel everything has to be completely spelled out for audiences that never graduated the 3rd grade
I did t get far into Dune (1) but what I can say is no one references it. Like ever. So it probably sucked to most people. Within days of Deadpool 3 coming out there were memes galore, YouTube shorts of the Madonna song over some other movies clip, etc etc.
Memes aren't everything but I've yet to see a single meme about either movie, or any kind of reference to it besides a direct discussion of the movie itself.
That alone tells me it was so bad it's not even memorable enough to joke about
Lotr on the other hand has countless meme template:
I have no memory of this place
Looks like meats back in the menu
How bout side by side with a....
Keep your secrets
Po ta toes
But they were all of them deceived
You have no power here....
What about second breakfast
One does not simply....
That's probably 10% of them and I know for a fact you could imagine and hear each one of those scenes in your head instantaneously.
While certainly an interesting observation, memes either make fun of campy parts or laugh along with it. While LOTR had a lot of darkness, it was girded with friendship and laughter. Dune is a serious movie that doesn't lighten up. Also, the timing of Dunes release (well after the birth of netflix and the death of cinema), the that lots of people were still being gay and isolating from covid, and the fact that there's a roughly 50/50 chance a guy likes sci fi, and less than a 2% chance a woman likes it. There's a little more to it than simply not being liked.
The SciFi channel miniseries is still my favorite, but the new ones are great with the glaring exception of Chani's behavior near the end.
They removed the explicitly Islamic aspects and made Paul a true believer instead of being forced to use the faith. All done to avoid offending Muslims