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posted 4 months ago by diogenesofthearch 4 months ago by diogenesofthearch +119 / -1
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– horstshort 4 points 4 months ago +5 / -1

If you watched Dune before reading it, I have a feeling you would feel differently.

No, I wouldn't because we're talking about whether or not it was a faithful adaption. Even if I hadn't read the books I would still dislike the movie. Why? Because it bored me. I don't give a damn about nice cinematography if the movie bores me.

And yeah, it sticks to the meat and potatoes of the story of the book without losing anything of serious value.

No. It fucking doesn't. That's my point. Dune 1984 actually sticks to the meat and potatoes of the story but makes some very strange addition and changes. Dunc on the other hand throws out the meat and potatoes and shits on what remained.

Unfortunately, no movie can live up to a good imagination.

That is absolute horse shit.

Your criticisms are valid, I just think you're putting too much weight into them and not looking at the overall picture.

The Spacing Guild might not have the most prominent role in the first book of Dune but it has one of the if not THE most important role. Removing them from an adaptation is not just a minor detail that was changed you break the very foundation of Dune itself.

Why is Arrakis important? Because spice. Why is spice important? Because it is necessary for space travel. Who has the monopoly on space travel? The Spacing Guild which makes them one of the four great powers in Dune alongside the Landsraad, the Bene Gesserit and the Emperor. Who produces spice? The worms via the spice cycle. How does Paul become Emperor and keep control over his new empire? By literally threatening to kill all worms on Arrakis to end the spice cycle. That's the reason why the Spacing Guild forbids the Landsraad armies to disembark and forces the Emperor to abdicate. Which in turn starts the Jihad because many houses of the Landsraad weren't very happy with that outcome.

You remove the Spacing Guild and the entire story collapses. They're not a minor or even major detail that you can change. They're a foundational pillar of the entire story.

Dune isn't just "hurrr hurrr space cocaine and desert planet". Dunc is Star Wars. Not Dune.

If you like the movie that's fine. Enjoyment is subjective. But don't pretend that Dunc is a faithful adaptation. It objectively isn't.

And do not tell me it isn't possible to faithfully adapt Dune on the big screen with 321 minutes of runtime when the 25 year old TV mini series managed to do it with almost an hour less runtime (273 minutes).

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– Uniquename99999999 -1 points 4 months ago +1 / -2

Make up your mind dude. You said the spacing guild was hardly in the first book, yet you criticize the movie for not giving them extra screen time? And if that's the best example of why you don't like the movie, then you're autistic lol. It was very clear to me that they space guild was important. Even if they didn't explain everything in that specific movie, the space guild is still important and can easily be expanded in the 2nd movie.

If your sole determination factor of whether or not a film is good is if the movie is exactly fucking like the book or not, do the world a favor and stop watching movies. The same goes if you feel everything has to be completely spelled out for audiences that never graduated the 3rd grade

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– horstshort 1 point 4 months ago +2 / -1

You said the spacing guild was hardly in the first book, yet you criticize the movie for not giving them extra screen time?

The movie ignored the spacing guild entirely.

And if that's the best example of why you don't like the movie, then you're autistic lol.

Aight. Now I know you didn't actually read the books and you're not interested in an honest discussion. Fuck off back to reddit.

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– Uniquename99999999 -1 points 4 months ago +1 / -2

You're the one losing their mind over a movie that's a solid 8 out of 10. I've read Dune twice and I enjoyed seeing it come to life. Sorry you can't enjoy things

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– horstshort 1 point 4 months ago +1 / -0

That's why you're resorting to personal attacks instead of actually discussing the topic at hand. We we're not talking about the enjoyment factor of Dunc but your ludicrous claim that it is the most faithful adaptation of Dune.

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