No, plenty of people have been trying to speak out about this for years, including the actual victims. They were harassed, threatened, and even jailed for daring to question The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Is the system fucked? Yes. Are there people trying to call this out? Also yes. Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours? No, despite the irony of that being the very goal of The Message and "community cohesion" in the topic, but then the "rest of the world" rarely understands just how actually diverse the individual nations making up Britain can be let alone how they vary from nation to nation.
Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours?
I'd feel bad about doing this, but they've done the same back to us Americans for decades now despite most states having just as much diversity as half of their little island alone, let alone the whole nation.
So its really just karma coming back to them in a way.
yep. im tired of this "morale high ground" or "we are better than this" kinda bullshit. that kinda attitude is the thing that allowed us to get taken advantage of in the first place.
I don't think its worthwhile for "allies" that were happy to shit on us and stab us in the back before, and would go right back to doing that if we were to save them.
And I'm not on board this growing train of "fellow whites" being this monolith I must support no matter what as if them being better than niggers and sandniggers is a mark of praise. Its mostly those same "fellow whites" (and not just Jews pretending) who got us in this mess and have learned zero lessons from it.
In terms of who's more fucked anyway, I'd say it'd go Scotland, Wales then England then Northern Ireland in the UK.
The Scots lost all semblance of a representative government years ago, Wales is just as leftist occupied but because less people and very rural area, not as much people to suffer like England.
Nothing as much happening in Northern Ireland as everyone seems to recognise the last thing they want to start is a competition of who's the better terrorist group, Muslims or IRA..
The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Not even just weeks before. Didn't they do nothing against Muslims rioted with machetes after the Bad Riots, even though people doing literally nothing were jailed for years, and you normally have potato peelers confiscated by these heroic cops?
The leadership in question is voted in by a much smaller number than what US elections manage. FPTP means not only are some regions completely devoid of the winning party, but have never voted for them as a local majority in decades, if ever. The secondary and tertiary problem with this situation is that neither do the alternative parties ever really offer anything different, remember before the current Labour gov the Tories were in power for about 14 years, but also that the population never really seems to stick to actual alternatives when "offered" them. So it swaps back between Red or Blue just like in the USA except the differences between the two now seems even less obvious than when Blair rewrote the playbook.
I'm a dual citizen, half English and half American, and shuttled between London/Oxford and Manhattan for most of my life. I lived in Paris for five years and in Budapest for two years.
America has its problems, France has its problems, Hungary has its problems, but Muslim grooming gangs are NOT one of them.
Muslim grooming gangs are, as far I can tell, PURELY a British (mainly English) problem. Even the other Islamised countries in Europe don't have this problem.
I cannot explain this difference but the difference is STARK. It's only Britain, and within that, only ENGLAND.
yeah, I should have been more clear. I mean similar in the sense of politicians turning a blind eye to immigrant and refugee-related crime for fear of being branded racist.
that being said, you raise an interesting point, why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem? additionally, why is it most of the perpetrators are pakistani muslims? is it a leftover grudge from the imperial days? is it the sheer concentration of pakistanis in England? is there some unique factor to england that doesn't exist in the rest of the world?
Understanding the why would go a long way to addressing the issue, though even then you have to have leaders with spines...
"Why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem?"
I do not know, but I strongly suspect that the British class system has something (I cannot yet identify what) to do with it. Then-PM Gordon Brown was able to send around a "circular" to all plod around the country announcing, basically, that since these underage girls were essentially white trash, they ought to be considered as consenting and no police ought to get involved.
France had a touch of it, and arrested the rapists involved- deterrent achieved. Same for the Netherlands, and same for Belgium.
Only Britain was instructed not to touch these rapists - this after reports of a 12 yr old getting her tongue being nailed to a table as she was being mass-raped, and an 11 yr old being raped with a broken bottle, destroying her internal organs. She spent six months in hospital and can never have children. Knowing all that, Gordon Brown sent all police in Britain a stand down notice.
I hope the truly evil people who read these reports and STILL commanded that police universally stand down because they were "slags" (at 11 yrs old- hardly likely) burn in hell, but before they do, I want to see them tried and imprisoned.
No, plenty of people have been trying to speak out about this for years, including the actual victims. They were harassed, threatened, and even jailed for daring to question The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Is the system fucked? Yes. Are there people trying to call this out? Also yes. Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours? No, despite the irony of that being the very goal of The Message and "community cohesion" in the topic, but then the "rest of the world" rarely understands just how actually diverse the individual nations making up Britain can be let alone how they vary from nation to nation.
I'd feel bad about doing this, but they've done the same back to us Americans for decades now despite most states having just as much diversity as half of their little island alone, let alone the whole nation.
So its really just karma coming back to them in a way.
yep. im tired of this "morale high ground" or "we are better than this" kinda bullshit. that kinda attitude is the thing that allowed us to get taken advantage of in the first place.
I'm fine with it when its practical and logical.
I don't think its worthwhile for "allies" that were happy to shit on us and stab us in the back before, and would go right back to doing that if we were to save them.
And I'm not on board this growing train of "fellow whites" being this monolith I must support no matter what as if them being better than niggers and sandniggers is a mark of praise. Its mostly those same "fellow whites" (and not just Jews pretending) who got us in this mess and have learned zero lessons from it.
im a straight, asian male.. i recognize that after you white people are gone. we are next.. so yeah..
In terms of who's more fucked anyway, I'd say it'd go Scotland, Wales then England then Northern Ireland in the UK.
The Scots lost all semblance of a representative government years ago, Wales is just as leftist occupied but because less people and very rural area, not as much people to suffer like England.
Nothing as much happening in Northern Ireland as everyone seems to recognise the last thing they want to start is a competition of who's the better terrorist group, Muslims or IRA..
Wales is basically a single party state held hostage by urban elites, and has been since devolution in the late 1990s
I still remember your retarded island chain blaming Americans for racism from 1990-2016.
You're absolutely right.
Not even just weeks before. Didn't they do nothing against Muslims rioted with machetes after the Bad Riots, even though people doing literally nothing were jailed for years, and you normally have potato peelers confiscated by these heroic cops?
I wouldn't say the British People, but certainly your leadership has dropped the ball in a big way, regardless of what party is running what...
For what it's worth, we've had similar problems here in the states...
The leadership in question is voted in by a much smaller number than what US elections manage. FPTP means not only are some regions completely devoid of the winning party, but have never voted for them as a local majority in decades, if ever. The secondary and tertiary problem with this situation is that neither do the alternative parties ever really offer anything different, remember before the current Labour gov the Tories were in power for about 14 years, but also that the population never really seems to stick to actual alternatives when "offered" them. So it swaps back between Red or Blue just like in the USA except the differences between the two now seems even less obvious than when Blair rewrote the playbook.
I'm a dual citizen, half English and half American, and shuttled between London/Oxford and Manhattan for most of my life. I lived in Paris for five years and in Budapest for two years.
America has its problems, France has its problems, Hungary has its problems, but Muslim grooming gangs are NOT one of them.
Muslim grooming gangs are, as far I can tell, PURELY a British (mainly English) problem. Even the other Islamised countries in Europe don't have this problem.
I cannot explain this difference but the difference is STARK. It's only Britain, and within that, only ENGLAND.
yeah, I should have been more clear. I mean similar in the sense of politicians turning a blind eye to immigrant and refugee-related crime for fear of being branded racist.
that being said, you raise an interesting point, why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem? additionally, why is it most of the perpetrators are pakistani muslims? is it a leftover grudge from the imperial days? is it the sheer concentration of pakistanis in England? is there some unique factor to england that doesn't exist in the rest of the world?
Understanding the why would go a long way to addressing the issue, though even then you have to have leaders with spines...
"Why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem?"
I do not know, but I strongly suspect that the British class system has something (I cannot yet identify what) to do with it. Then-PM Gordon Brown was able to send around a "circular" to all plod around the country announcing, basically, that since these underage girls were essentially white trash, they ought to be considered as consenting and no police ought to get involved.
France had a touch of it, and arrested the rapists involved- deterrent achieved. Same for the Netherlands, and same for Belgium.
Only Britain was instructed not to touch these rapists - this after reports of a 12 yr old getting her tongue being nailed to a table as she was being mass-raped, and an 11 yr old being raped with a broken bottle, destroying her internal organs. She spent six months in hospital and can never have children. Knowing all that, Gordon Brown sent all police in Britain a stand down notice.
I hope the truly evil people who read these reports and STILL commanded that police universally stand down because they were "slags" (at 11 yrs old- hardly likely) burn in hell, but before they do, I want to see them tried and imprisoned.