Only the most imbecilic of people could agree with Elon on this, or people who put money ahead of everything else and know they can make a buck on it.
I wouldn't go that far: I'd say this is very "default liberal" limited thinking. "Line go up is more good? Yes." I think, unfortunately, if you put out a survey on his position, the vast majority of people would agree. And that is a real problem that the dissident right has to contend with: a lot of good, true, and productive positions aren't shared.
I guess from a Libertarian perspective, the strongest arguments my side has is economic ones and individualist ones. We can mathematically prove that rent control doesn't work, but it doesn't mean that people won't keep voting for them.
This is why Sargon was absolutely losing his shit after seeing a YouGov poll. Not only do some people not get it, but they literally do not know any opposing argument because the overton window was closed to the point that some people believe CNN is a right wing network. Thankfully, the Fabian Society isn't based out of our capital city like in the UK, but all this shows is just how much work we have to do to, I'd hate to say it, educate people. Even on our own side.
If Reform UK has 30% of it's members supporting Feminism, and Elon believes that H1-B's are super cool, it just shows us the work we have to do, even within our own side.
I think, unfortunately, if you put out a survey on his position, the vast majority of people would agree.
Only with a lot of either ignorance or presumptions in place.
I think most people who aren't anti-white from the outset would only agree if they don't have much knowledge on the issue and fall for the easy marketing pitch he tried to sell it as at the start.
Like I said in another comment, a lot of people on the Trump side probably barely even knew H1Bs existed let alone a lot of their function and how they are used until this blew up. Its one of those sections of immigration that is often not discussed outside the very narrow "tech but also right wing" circles compared to things like border hoppers and "visa overstayers."
I think the vast majority of voters on Trump's side would be against it if you just sat them down and gave them a short explanation of it. Which is one reason why Musk, and his big name supporters, went for the "FUCK YOU' response so quickly.
Because if people think about it beyond the 10 second blurb of "we want the best and greatest to MAGA" that they were leaning on, it falls apart completely. Its a position built entirely on ignorance to succeed.
I totally agree that if you sat them down and explained shit the maga normies be on our side, but that's the problem. The ignorance really is there, and media control have worked hard to promote it.
I'm actually wondering if the "FUCK YOU" response is coming from people actually prodding him into saying something stupid. He's an autist, not a politician, so I can easily see how professional manipulators could prompt him into sperging out.
I don't think he is being manipulated into it, that's probably his genuine reaction to what's happening.
He is a socially inept autist who recently was embraced by this movement as some sort of icon and hero, he probably got a huge dopamine spike and ego over how much people have been fawning over him.
Only for suddenly those same people to turn on him. All his normal tactics refused to work on these people, they kept not only disagreeing with him, but also pointing out genuine mistakes in his reasoning and showing those that were on his side were happy to abuse (Vivek). They were beating him with logic, they were beating him with memes, and these were the guys who were supposed to be his team who applauded him when the Lefties started getting on him.
So he did what any good autist does. He got overwhelmed from the stimuli and freaked the fuck out, responding on the level of a tantrumming toddler by just banning or check stripping anyone he could to re-assert his power and control of the situation.
I wouldn't go that far: I'd say this is very "default liberal" limited thinking. "Line go up is more good? Yes." I think, unfortunately, if you put out a survey on his position, the vast majority of people would agree. And that is a real problem that the dissident right has to contend with: a lot of good, true, and productive positions aren't shared.
I guess from a Libertarian perspective, the strongest arguments my side has is economic ones and individualist ones. We can mathematically prove that rent control doesn't work, but it doesn't mean that people won't keep voting for them.
This is why Sargon was absolutely losing his shit after seeing a YouGov poll. Not only do some people not get it, but they literally do not know any opposing argument because the overton window was closed to the point that some people believe CNN is a right wing network. Thankfully, the Fabian Society isn't based out of our capital city like in the UK, but all this shows is just how much work we have to do to, I'd hate to say it, educate people. Even on our own side.
If Reform UK has 30% of it's members supporting Feminism, and Elon believes that H1-B's are super cool, it just shows us the work we have to do, even within our own side.
Only with a lot of either ignorance or presumptions in place.
I think most people who aren't anti-white from the outset would only agree if they don't have much knowledge on the issue and fall for the easy marketing pitch he tried to sell it as at the start.
Like I said in another comment, a lot of people on the Trump side probably barely even knew H1Bs existed let alone a lot of their function and how they are used until this blew up. Its one of those sections of immigration that is often not discussed outside the very narrow "tech but also right wing" circles compared to things like border hoppers and "visa overstayers."
I think the vast majority of voters on Trump's side would be against it if you just sat them down and gave them a short explanation of it. Which is one reason why Musk, and his big name supporters, went for the "FUCK YOU' response so quickly.
Because if people think about it beyond the 10 second blurb of "we want the best and greatest to MAGA" that they were leaning on, it falls apart completely. Its a position built entirely on ignorance to succeed.
I totally agree that if you sat them down and explained shit the maga normies be on our side, but that's the problem. The ignorance really is there, and media control have worked hard to promote it.
I'm actually wondering if the "FUCK YOU" response is coming from people actually prodding him into saying something stupid. He's an autist, not a politician, so I can easily see how professional manipulators could prompt him into sperging out.
I don't think he is being manipulated into it, that's probably his genuine reaction to what's happening.
He is a socially inept autist who recently was embraced by this movement as some sort of icon and hero, he probably got a huge dopamine spike and ego over how much people have been fawning over him.
Only for suddenly those same people to turn on him. All his normal tactics refused to work on these people, they kept not only disagreeing with him, but also pointing out genuine mistakes in his reasoning and showing those that were on his side were happy to abuse (Vivek). They were beating him with logic, they were beating him with memes, and these were the guys who were supposed to be his team who applauded him when the Lefties started getting on him.
So he did what any good autist does. He got overwhelmed from the stimuli and freaked the fuck out, responding on the level of a tantrumming toddler by just banning or check stripping anyone he could to re-assert his power and control of the situation.
Maybe this would sort itself out if someone gave him a fidget spinner.