The books burned by the Nazis were pseudo-science books mostly written by leftists. For example hyper-sexualization books, sexualization books meant for minors, "gender theory", and various other degenerate things. Also books that meant to lie about history.
No books were burned. That's a big bad thing, so if they were burned we would definitely know about it. Actually some were burned but they were all propaganda books so akshually it is a good thing. Can't you neo natsees get a life?!
OP is a lying National Socialist, so do not expect to get a legit answer out of him. But I can do that for you.
The books that were destroyed were almost entirely Nazi propaganda or apologetics. The books that were burned were typically not done in large elaborate displays except by the French and Soviets because they wanted to make it clear how much they hated the National Socialists and intended to destroy them down to the very root. This was considered a public relations failure by the British and Americans who wanted to continue mass censorship as part of the Frankfurt School's Denazification agenda, but didn't want to turn it into a public display.
As for the faggot OP and is faggot beliefs: no, these were not merely random German students coming to the foray to defend their country. These students were explicitly organized by Nazi party members and the original blacklist for destruction was organized by the Reich Ministry for Popular Enlightenment and Propaganda and given to Wolfgang Herrmann. Socialists radical students ask Socialists in positions of power to give them a blacklist, which is provided by Socialists in government. This is pretty standard behavior.
If you listen faggots like OP, you might come away thinking that the books only involved transgenderism because he's that stupid, and the Nazis think this is a useful way to get back into the modern conversation. In reality, this was hardly any of the books. Most of the books were about anti-war advocacy, support for the Weimar republic, and support for other variants of Socialism. For the most part, anything that isn't National Socialist Ideology. The guidelines from Google Translate:
„Artificial, community-dissolving and people-destroying “ Literature. The highest selection criterion for inclusion in libraries must be the fixed roots in the „blood and species-related community “ and the „spiritual-mental “ identification with the German people.
So any books that are not asserting Aryanism. I will remind you that this is because Aryanism asserts that the Aryans are a Hyperborean race. The Germans are supposed to be a literally d
The „decomposing testimonies of the Jewish spirit “.
Literally, anything talking well of the jews.
All works „non-popular and distant, metropolitan literary figures “, which were written in the „spirit of bourgeois-decadent subjectivism “.
If the National Socialists aren't Socialists, why are they screaming about bourgeois decadence? Anyways, books popular in urban areas.
All publications under the guise of the artwork class struggle, Marxism, Pacifism, Atheism, Pan-Europeanism or propagated cosmopolitanism.
Again, showing the focus on Aryanism as a religion. Note that Pan-Europeanism is literally antithetical to National Socialism. Something the retarded alt-righters are trying to keep you from noticing.
Foreign language literature in the original or in translations, unless it is „German-Nordic feeling related to species or connected to the soul “.
Again, anything not supporting Aryanism, and in a different language.
The books that were destroyed were almost entirely Nazi propaganda or apologetics.
And that makes it okay? Ignoring the fact that the definition of "Nazi propaganda" is very ambigious.
The books that were burned were typically not done in large elaborate displays except by the French and Soviets (...)
So they did burn books. So why are you calling him a liar if you're just confirming his statement?
In reality, this was hardly any of the books. Most of the books were about anti-war advocacy, support for the Weimar republic, and support for other variants of Socialism.
So when they burn/ban books that they consider propaganda it's bad but when we do it it's okay?
I'm calling OP a liar because he is one. Normally he lies about Nazi atrocities, and in this post he's lying about "German Students" by pretending that the Nazis had nothing to do with book burning.
I didn't say it was okay. At the time, the criticism of this was that it was "Hitler in reverse", and that was apt. The Denazification program asserted that the Germans were racially incapable of not submitting to authoritarianism, and as such could not live in a free society without being groomed by the state into a Socialist New Man; the way that Hitler had attempted to groom the Germans into a National Socialist New Man by Gleichschaltung. This is because both the Frankfurt School and Adolf Hitler were Socialists.
How is it lying that students did it? You yourself wrote that the students asked for a list from the ministry. So it was an event primarliy organised by the students. OP did not state National Socialists weren't involved in that event. At least not in this post.
But that students burned "left wing" books is an oversimplification and depending on the intentions either ignorant or dishonest. On that point I agree with you.
It was organized by the National Socialists who tasked their National Socialist student members and societies to ask a National Socialist librarian for a blacklist, who then received a list from the National Socialist government.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event. The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
It's your dishonesty that makes you and OP a liar.
Who is obfuscating the fact that those students were National Socialists? No one.
But there is a difference between an event organised/ordered by the government/party leadership from beginning to end and party members or people affiliated or sympathetic towards an ideology organising it from their own accord. Students aren't exactly known for not being politically outspoken.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event.
Yes, I am definitely trying to obfuscate the fact that the NSDAP government banned those books in the first place. :')
The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
Considering that the absolute majority of the student population and student organisations are leftist, it's not exactly surprising.
But there is a difference between an event organised/ordered by the government/party leadership from beginning to end and party members or people affiliated or sympathetic towards an ideology organising it from their own accord. Students aren't exactly known for not being politically outspoken.
Yes, and it's the former. That's the obfuscation you are engaging in. It's the same way that Kristallnacht was directly ordered by the party, which then claimed it was a just a popular reaction.
Considering that the absolute majority of the student population and student organisations are leftist, it's not exactly surprising.
Yawn. "no u" is the lowest form of rebuttal. Go back to seething about how the jews are superior to you. Though that's a low bar, because you're the epitome of a midwit.
This seems to be an intentional obfuscation of what was being removed. To be clear, all evidence suggests that the books being burned by the French and Soviets seems to have been outright National Socialist literature and propaganda, where as the Allied Information Control Division's censorship program covered Nazi literature, Nazi propaganda, militarist literature, propaganda critical of the occupation, and Nihilist literature.
If OC were actually being honest about this, he could have said clearly that "Nazi literature criticizing jews and freemasons" were banned. This is true, but he decided to obfuscate it as books that simply had nothing to do with Nazis. Just "criticism". The fact that he included "books of ideologies they didn't like and deemed as propaganda", is literally just another way of saying "National Socialist propaganda", shows his intentional dishonesty here.
Oh, and you are the pinnacle of truth? Glad you know everything and are confident enough to outright ban users over it.
Do you know what I hate most? Not mere stupidity, not even arrogance, not even maliciousness. It's this pure arrogance combined with stubbornness and ignorance. You represent that perfectly.
Just think, the comment you deleted CANNOT BE SEEN and you cannot be argued with. WHO THE FUCK would take YOUR word for anything you say? Who do you even want to convince?
And what the fuck is with your post history... you are a rabid janitor who is out of control, sniffing his own farts. You are just hated by most people, and you do a terrible job... unless your job is to ruin the forum.
You are the type of person who'd fit perfectly into some censorship job as a cogwheel in the machine of the Soviet Union. You know, for example when someone requests documents, you are the one striking through large swaths of text with a black marker. Or, in a higher position, you'd be the one determining which returning Soviet soldier has to be put into gulags for witnessing things he wasn't allowed to. Pathetic.
You're complaining that I've targeted intentional fraud designed to deceive people. I'm not arbitrating truth. He just happens to know what the truth is and is intentionally obfuscating it. It's not a difference of opinion, it is aggressive attempt to deceive. Had he engaged in simply stating his opinion honestly, it wouldn't have been an issue, as I said.
You're complaining that I've targeted intentional fraud
You accuse him of "lying", not fraud, because fraud is a criminal act that is intended to gain material personal advantage, and it does not necessitate the act of lying. Deception and psychological tricks can do it too.
I'm not arbitrating truth.
That's exactly what you did. Here:
To be clear, all evidence suggests that the books being burned by the French and Soviets [...]
You claimed X happened, someone else (probably) said Y happened, and you claim that you are right and he is wrong. And not only did you delete his comment (to deprive everybody from reading it), you also banned him (so that he cannot even prove his points).
He just happens to know what the truth is and is intentionally obfuscating it.
Isn't that the standard thought process of all who persecute dissidents since humanity exists, neatly summarized in the word "denial"? It suggests there is an unquestionable truth, and then some bigot asshole chooses to be evil and say the wrong thing for the lulz. Then he gets censored, jailed, burned, killed, etc.
Had he engaged in simply stating his opinion honestly, it wouldn't have been an issue, as I said.
And what if you just called it a lie (even "fraud" to make it sound scarier) so that you have a publicly legitimately appearing excuse to ban him? What if YOU were the dishonest one? You lied about it being a "fraud" after all (ignorance or an attempt to deceive?), so will you punish yourself too? Of course not, honesty, which you demand from others, is not important for you. You just want a particular narrative to prevail. And if others lie, but it's something that aligns with you, they don't face repercussions.
The books burned by the Nazis were pseudo-science books mostly written by leftists. For example hyper-sexualization books, sexualization books meant for minors, "gender theory", and various other degenerate things. Also books that meant to lie about history.
You know, the same as today.
No books were burned. That's a big bad thing, so if they were burned we would definitely know about it. Actually some were burned but they were all propaganda books so akshually it is a good thing. Can't you neo natsees get a life?!
OP is a lying National Socialist, so do not expect to get a legit answer out of him. But I can do that for you.
The books that were destroyed were almost entirely Nazi propaganda or apologetics. The books that were burned were typically not done in large elaborate displays except by the French and Soviets because they wanted to make it clear how much they hated the National Socialists and intended to destroy them down to the very root. This was considered a public relations failure by the British and Americans who wanted to continue mass censorship as part of the Frankfurt School's Denazification agenda, but didn't want to turn it into a public display.
As for the faggot OP and is faggot beliefs: no, these were not merely random German students coming to the foray to defend their country. These students were explicitly organized by Nazi party members and the original blacklist for destruction was organized by the Reich Ministry for Popular Enlightenment and Propaganda and given to Wolfgang Herrmann. Socialists radical students ask Socialists in positions of power to give them a blacklist, which is provided by Socialists in government. This is pretty standard behavior.
If you listen faggots like OP, you might come away thinking that the books only involved transgenderism because he's that stupid, and the Nazis think this is a useful way to get back into the modern conversation. In reality, this was hardly any of the books. Most of the books were about anti-war advocacy, support for the Weimar republic, and support for other variants of Socialism. For the most part, anything that isn't National Socialist Ideology. The guidelines from Google Translate:
So any books that are not asserting Aryanism. I will remind you that this is because Aryanism asserts that the Aryans are a Hyperborean race. The Germans are supposed to be a literally d
Literally, anything talking well of the jews.
If the National Socialists aren't Socialists, why are they screaming about bourgeois decadence? Anyways, books popular in urban areas.
Again, showing the focus on Aryanism as a religion. Note that Pan-Europeanism is literally antithetical to National Socialism. Something the retarded alt-righters are trying to keep you from noticing.
Again, anything not supporting Aryanism, and in a different language.
And that makes it okay? Ignoring the fact that the definition of "Nazi propaganda" is very ambigious.
So they did burn books. So why are you calling him a liar if you're just confirming his statement?
So when they burn/ban books that they consider propaganda it's bad but when we do it it's okay?
in order:
It doesn't make it okay.
I'm calling OP a liar because he is one. Normally he lies about Nazi atrocities, and in this post he's lying about "German Students" by pretending that the Nazis had nothing to do with book burning.
I didn't say it was okay. At the time, the criticism of this was that it was "Hitler in reverse", and that was apt. The Denazification program asserted that the Germans were racially incapable of not submitting to authoritarianism, and as such could not live in a free society without being groomed by the state into a Socialist New Man; the way that Hitler had attempted to groom the Germans into a National Socialist New Man by Gleichschaltung. This is because both the Frankfurt School and Adolf Hitler were Socialists.
How is it lying that students did it? You yourself wrote that the students asked for a list from the ministry. So it was an event primarliy organised by the students. OP did not state National Socialists weren't involved in that event. At least not in this post.
But that students burned "left wing" books is an oversimplification and depending on the intentions either ignorant or dishonest. On that point I agree with you.
It was organized by the National Socialists who tasked their National Socialist student members and societies to ask a National Socialist librarian for a blacklist, who then received a list from the National Socialist government.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event. The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
It's your dishonesty that makes you and OP a liar.
Who is obfuscating the fact that those students were National Socialists? No one.
But there is a difference between an event organised/ordered by the government/party leadership from beginning to end and party members or people affiliated or sympathetic towards an ideology organising it from their own accord. Students aren't exactly known for not being politically outspoken.
Yes, I am definitely trying to obfuscate the fact that the NSDAP government banned those books in the first place. :')
Considering that the absolute majority of the student population and student organisations are leftist, it's not exactly surprising.
Yes, and it's the former. That's the obfuscation you are engaging in. It's the same way that Kristallnacht was directly ordered by the party, which then claimed it was a just a popular reaction.
Yes, that's why they went around burning books.
Considering we still have retard stormfags around, including you, I'd say we didn't go far enough.
Free speech always finds a way. :')
As does retardation, unfortunately.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
Yawn. "no u" is the lowest form of rebuttal. Go back to seething about how the jews are superior to you. Though that's a low bar, because you're the epitome of a midwit.
Do you have proof? Any list? Anything?
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This seems to be an intentional obfuscation of what was being removed. To be clear, all evidence suggests that the books being burned by the French and Soviets seems to have been outright National Socialist literature and propaganda, where as the Allied Information Control Division's censorship program covered Nazi literature, Nazi propaganda, militarist literature, propaganda critical of the occupation, and Nihilist literature.
If OC were actually being honest about this, he could have said clearly that "Nazi literature criticizing jews and freemasons" were banned. This is true, but he decided to obfuscate it as books that simply had nothing to do with Nazis. Just "criticism". The fact that he included "books of ideologies they didn't like and deemed as propaganda", is literally just another way of saying "National Socialist propaganda", shows his intentional dishonesty here.
Oh, and you are the pinnacle of truth? Glad you know everything and are confident enough to outright ban users over it.
Do you know what I hate most? Not mere stupidity, not even arrogance, not even maliciousness. It's this pure arrogance combined with stubbornness and ignorance. You represent that perfectly.
Just think, the comment you deleted CANNOT BE SEEN and you cannot be argued with. WHO THE FUCK would take YOUR word for anything you say? Who do you even want to convince?
And what the fuck is with your post history... you are a rabid janitor who is out of control, sniffing his own farts. You are just hated by most people, and you do a terrible job... unless your job is to ruin the forum.
You are the type of person who'd fit perfectly into some censorship job as a cogwheel in the machine of the Soviet Union. You know, for example when someone requests documents, you are the one striking through large swaths of text with a black marker. Or, in a higher position, you'd be the one determining which returning Soviet soldier has to be put into gulags for witnessing things he wasn't allowed to. Pathetic.
You're complaining that I've targeted intentional fraud designed to deceive people. I'm not arbitrating truth. He just happens to know what the truth is and is intentionally obfuscating it. It's not a difference of opinion, it is aggressive attempt to deceive. Had he engaged in simply stating his opinion honestly, it wouldn't have been an issue, as I said.
You accuse him of "lying", not fraud, because fraud is a criminal act that is intended to gain material personal advantage, and it does not necessitate the act of lying. Deception and psychological tricks can do it too.
That's exactly what you did. Here:
You claimed X happened, someone else (probably) said Y happened, and you claim that you are right and he is wrong. And not only did you delete his comment (to deprive everybody from reading it), you also banned him (so that he cannot even prove his points).
Isn't that the standard thought process of all who persecute dissidents since humanity exists, neatly summarized in the word "denial"? It suggests there is an unquestionable truth, and then some bigot asshole chooses to be evil and say the wrong thing for the lulz. Then he gets censored, jailed, burned, killed, etc.
And what if you just called it a lie (even "fraud" to make it sound scarier) so that you have a publicly legitimately appearing excuse to ban him? What if YOU were the dishonest one? You lied about it being a "fraud" after all (ignorance or an attempt to deceive?), so will you punish yourself too? Of course not, honesty, which you demand from others, is not important for you. You just want a particular narrative to prevail. And if others lie, but it's something that aligns with you, they don't face repercussions.
That is censorship. Just admit it.