The books that were destroyed were almost entirely Nazi propaganda or apologetics.
And that makes it okay? Ignoring the fact that the definition of "Nazi propaganda" is very ambigious.
The books that were burned were typically not done in large elaborate displays except by the French and Soviets (...)
So they did burn books. So why are you calling him a liar if you're just confirming his statement?
In reality, this was hardly any of the books. Most of the books were about anti-war advocacy, support for the Weimar republic, and support for other variants of Socialism.
So when they burn/ban books that they consider propaganda it's bad but when we do it it's okay?
I'm calling OP a liar because he is one. Normally he lies about Nazi atrocities, and in this post he's lying about "German Students" by pretending that the Nazis had nothing to do with book burning.
I didn't say it was okay. At the time, the criticism of this was that it was "Hitler in reverse", and that was apt. The Denazification program asserted that the Germans were racially incapable of not submitting to authoritarianism, and as such could not live in a free society without being groomed by the state into a Socialist New Man; the way that Hitler had attempted to groom the Germans into a National Socialist New Man by Gleichschaltung. This is because both the Frankfurt School and Adolf Hitler were Socialists.
How is it lying that students did it? You yourself wrote that the students asked for a list from the ministry. So it was an event primarliy organised by the students. OP did not state National Socialists weren't involved in that event. At least not in this post.
But that students burned "left wing" books is an oversimplification and depending on the intentions either ignorant or dishonest. On that point I agree with you.
It was organized by the National Socialists who tasked their National Socialist student members and societies to ask a National Socialist librarian for a blacklist, who then received a list from the National Socialist government.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event. The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
It's your dishonesty that makes you and OP a liar.
Who is obfuscating the fact that those students were National Socialists? No one.
But there is a difference between an event organised/ordered by the government/party leadership from beginning to end and party members or people affiliated or sympathetic towards an ideology organising it from their own accord. Students aren't exactly known for not being politically outspoken.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event.
Yes, I am definitely trying to obfuscate the fact that the NSDAP government banned those books in the first place. :')
The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
Considering that the absolute majority of the student population and student organisations are leftist, it's not exactly surprising.
And that makes it okay? Ignoring the fact that the definition of "Nazi propaganda" is very ambigious.
So they did burn books. So why are you calling him a liar if you're just confirming his statement?
So when they burn/ban books that they consider propaganda it's bad but when we do it it's okay?
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It doesn't make it okay.
I'm calling OP a liar because he is one. Normally he lies about Nazi atrocities, and in this post he's lying about "German Students" by pretending that the Nazis had nothing to do with book burning.
I didn't say it was okay. At the time, the criticism of this was that it was "Hitler in reverse", and that was apt. The Denazification program asserted that the Germans were racially incapable of not submitting to authoritarianism, and as such could not live in a free society without being groomed by the state into a Socialist New Man; the way that Hitler had attempted to groom the Germans into a National Socialist New Man by Gleichschaltung. This is because both the Frankfurt School and Adolf Hitler were Socialists.
How is it lying that students did it? You yourself wrote that the students asked for a list from the ministry. So it was an event primarliy organised by the students. OP did not state National Socialists weren't involved in that event. At least not in this post.
But that students burned "left wing" books is an oversimplification and depending on the intentions either ignorant or dishonest. On that point I agree with you.
It was organized by the National Socialists who tasked their National Socialist student members and societies to ask a National Socialist librarian for a blacklist, who then received a list from the National Socialist government.
Being a liar, no different from OP, you are trying to obfuscate the fact that National Socialists, including the government, were explicitly involved in every aspect of the event. The same way that modern socialists pretend that "Palestinian Protests" are purely grass-roots outrage of the student population, and not a major propaganda effort by Leftist organizations operating at every level.
It's your dishonesty that makes you and OP a liar.
Who is obfuscating the fact that those students were National Socialists? No one.
But there is a difference between an event organised/ordered by the government/party leadership from beginning to end and party members or people affiliated or sympathetic towards an ideology organising it from their own accord. Students aren't exactly known for not being politically outspoken.
Yes, I am definitely trying to obfuscate the fact that the NSDAP government banned those books in the first place. :')
Considering that the absolute majority of the student population and student organisations are leftist, it's not exactly surprising.
Considering we still have retard stormfags around, including you, I'd say we didn't go far enough.
Free speech always finds a way. :')
As does retardation, unfortunately.
Don't be too hard on yourself.