You're blaming the US for Europe's mistakes now? Your dipshit leaders signed the league of nations, Wilson's retarded plan - the US refused it. Europe dragged the US into war both times.
Wilson wasn't even popular here. He only got the presidency because of infighting from the republicans and Roosevelt splitting their vote. That disaster really solidified the two party system here and gave us the fucking federal income tax which was supposed to be temporary.
You're blaming the US for Europe's mistakes now? Your dipshit leaders signed the league of nations, Wilson's retarded plan - the US refused it. Europe dragged the US into war both times.
No, I'm pointing out that the US entry led to an overwhelming victory by the Entente powers, and a punitive peace imposed on the Central Powers (at least one that was perceived as that), which set the stage for World War II and the Cold War.
Yes, the treaty of versailles that was quite bad. You're blaming that on the US bailing the allies out. You'd prefer the war completely decimated europe?
I'm not sure you understand, I'm not "blaming" anyone specifically. The idiocy of the Europeans is well-known, but I was replying to someone claiming the Americans 'bailed us out'. The Entente might well have made peace after Russia left, or at least have lost the war, with terms quite probably as punitive as those of Versailles, but they didn't because the Americans were arriving.
It's like Ukraine, where European and American involvement just prolongs the war and leads to more death and destruction. Even though we're only "helping" (the arms industry).
You're blaming the US for Europe's mistakes now? Your dipshit leaders signed the league of nations, Wilson's retarded plan - the US refused it. Europe dragged the US into war both times.
Wilson wasn't even popular here. He only got the presidency because of infighting from the republicans and Roosevelt splitting their vote. That disaster really solidified the two party system here and gave us the fucking federal income tax which was supposed to be temporary.
No, I'm pointing out that the US entry led to an overwhelming victory by the Entente powers, and a punitive peace imposed on the Central Powers (at least one that was perceived as that), which set the stage for World War II and the Cold War.
Yes, the treaty of versailles that was quite bad. You're blaming that on the US bailing the allies out. You'd prefer the war completely decimated europe?
I'm not sure you understand, I'm not "blaming" anyone specifically. The idiocy of the Europeans is well-known, but I was replying to someone claiming the Americans 'bailed us out'. The Entente might well have made peace after Russia left, or at least have lost the war, with terms quite probably as punitive as those of Versailles, but they didn't because the Americans were arriving.
It's like Ukraine, where European and American involvement just prolongs the war and leads to more death and destruction. Even though we're only "helping" (the arms industry).