this will be unpopular here, but there is a very very small subset of people where HRT and puberty blockers (chemical castration) are necessary. these would be the people who are in actual mental distress that is so severe that they are prone to self-harm. these treatments are not a cure, but rather a cope so that they don't kill themselves or fall into (further) insanity.
unfortunately gender dysphoria has been so ridiculously overdiagnosed these people get caught up in the culture war. of all the kids diagnosed with gender dysphoria, or otherwise recommended """gender affirming""" care, I would be willing to bet less than 1% of them are actually people who need that kind of treatment, and the rest are simply victims of rapid onset gender dysphoria as a result of social pressure and grooming from school teachers. not only do these people not need these treatments, but the treatments are actively harmful to them.
I 100% think there is no reason to use these treatments on prepubescent or pubescent minors, however I do believe the case could be made for an older teenager to receive these treatments if their mental illness is that severe. this would indeed be something that is ultimately up to the parents with the recommendation of an actual responsible doctor.
It's a shame that all the responsible doctors are being pushed out of the industry.
First of all, I like that you voice unpopular views, especially as it's not "media orthodoxy" either, but your own unique point of view.
But what makes you think that this is necessary for anyone? If people have 'mental distress that is so distress that they will self-harm', that is a mental issue. If you have a mental issue that tells you that your arm should not be there, the solution is not to chop off your arm, but to cure that.
Indeed curing the mental issue is and always should be the first priority. For the vast majority, this will work and the patient will go on to live a healthy life.
the subset I'm talking about is the minority that cannot be cured. I cannot stress enough how tiny this population is, as they are a small subset of the already small subset of people that suffer gender dysphoria. despite how rare these people are, they do exist.
That's the opposite of the appropriate treatment. You use exposure therapy for mental illnesses with this type of pathology. Any encouragement of their intrusive thoughts makes them worse. You want to repeatedly reinforce that they're their biological gender and always will be, that if they have no womb or ovaries, they're a man.
You're dealing with people here that are perfectly fine with the "No responsibility. No agency. No rights." trap that debate over this topic eventually leads to. I wouldn't bother discussing it too deeply.
The average human doesn't want to deal with the fact that the human mind isn't perfect and can have its faults. They don't care that the culture war has taken genuine disorders and contorted them to an agenda either.
this will be unpopular here, but there is a very very small subset of people where HRT and puberty blockers (chemical castration) are necessary. these would be the people who are in actual mental distress that is so severe that they are prone to self-harm. these treatments are not a cure, but rather a cope so that they don't kill themselves or fall into (further) insanity.
unfortunately gender dysphoria has been so ridiculously overdiagnosed these people get caught up in the culture war. of all the kids diagnosed with gender dysphoria, or otherwise recommended """gender affirming""" care, I would be willing to bet less than 1% of them are actually people who need that kind of treatment, and the rest are simply victims of rapid onset gender dysphoria as a result of social pressure and grooming from school teachers. not only do these people not need these treatments, but the treatments are actively harmful to them.
I 100% think there is no reason to use these treatments on prepubescent or pubescent minors, however I do believe the case could be made for an older teenager to receive these treatments if their mental illness is that severe. this would indeed be something that is ultimately up to the parents with the recommendation of an actual responsible doctor.
It's a shame that all the responsible doctors are being pushed out of the industry.
No.
First of all, I like that you voice unpopular views, especially as it's not "media orthodoxy" either, but your own unique point of view.
But what makes you think that this is necessary for anyone? If people have 'mental distress that is so distress that they will self-harm', that is a mental issue. If you have a mental issue that tells you that your arm should not be there, the solution is not to chop off your arm, but to cure that.
Indeed curing the mental issue is and always should be the first priority. For the vast majority, this will work and the patient will go on to live a healthy life.
the subset I'm talking about is the minority that cannot be cured. I cannot stress enough how tiny this population is, as they are a small subset of the already small subset of people that suffer gender dysphoria. despite how rare these people are, they do exist.
That's just a bunch of bullshit to allow the camels nose under the tent.
You've accepted their lies.
Based Captain Kirk said it best.
That's the opposite of the appropriate treatment. You use exposure therapy for mental illnesses with this type of pathology. Any encouragement of their intrusive thoughts makes them worse. You want to repeatedly reinforce that they're their biological gender and always will be, that if they have no womb or ovaries, they're a man.
You're dealing with people here that are perfectly fine with the "No responsibility. No agency. No rights." trap that debate over this topic eventually leads to. I wouldn't bother discussing it too deeply.
The average human doesn't want to deal with the fact that the human mind isn't perfect and can have its faults. They don't care that the culture war has taken genuine disorders and contorted them to an agenda either.