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JD Vance refuses to accept the fake fact check and calls out the moderators on it so they shut his mic. Incredible (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +157 / -0
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– Gizortnik 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

"Housing isn't a commodity"

Yes it fucking is. People using their house as an asset commodity which builds wealth. Saying that people shouldn't be trading up their houses is the exact reason how the middle-class gets to the upper-middle class.

"Which regulations?"

Bitch, federal pseudo-corporations own almost all mortgage debt in America. Do you even FHA?

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– CensoredSpeech 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Depends on the your definition of commodity. Most economic definitions of commodity consider only things that are mostly the same no matter who produced them because there's limited variability in the product to be commodities. Grain, potatoes, oil and gold are examples of commodities because they are the same no matter who produced them (for the most part). Housing is not a commodity.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I guess my issue is that housing is a commodity in the financial market, but so is everything else. It's not a great system, and the debt-mortgage system (which isn't great) is one of the primary ways anyone can exchange those commodities to actually build wealth. But, I'm willing to accept that it's debatable.

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– CensoredSpeech 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I still think you're using commodity in the wrong context based on this post of yours.

People exchange currency for real estate and accumulate debt by putting their real estate up as collateral to a debtor. People exchange commodities for currency which they then exchange for real estate. No one ever exchanges a commodity directly for real estate these days, which would be more bartar style of a transaction.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Well, I agree that that isn't what I'm trying to say...

Because the purpose is to build a mortgage as a financial vehicle (because you don't have the capital to build a liquid cash supply), you are swapping out commodities for debt, and building the vehicle. You're not swapping a commodity for a different commodity, you are swapping a commodity (after improving it's value) for another commodity.

You use the mortgage product as a stand-in for capital and assets. You get a house on a mortgage, improve it's value, sell the house, and then refinance your mortgage with the profits you made as capital & assets to buy a better house; rinse and repeat. This is how the middle-class moves into upper-middle class. After that, there's buying multiple houses, renting them out, and doing a similar thing using them as investment products. This moves the upper-middle class into the full blown upper class.

At the end of the day, from the financial market perspective, housing is a commodity like any other. The mortgage system, and the slowly increasing price of houses, makes it a different kind of commodity market than copper, but it's still a kind of commodity for the purposes of exchanging into a financial product.

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