It looks bad, no matter how one frames it. Youtubers need to do a bit more due diligence before accepting money from these orgs... who founded the company? are they real people? what's the company's history?... cause it's a matter of reputation. Leftists don't care about reputation, they'll happily take CCP money and if you point that out, they'll just accuse you of 'bigotry'... but it's not about leftists here, it's about one own's credibility.
I also have a strong suspicion that the DOJ could have stopped that charade very early, but they didn't, probably to make the contributors look worse since they are the opposition...
I'm glad more people are taking this view because it's been fucking silly how butthurt others have been getting over it. They're digging in trying to cry persecution but at the end of the day the more details come out the more they're looking like greedy fucks who took the money without ever questioning it.
I believe Lauren and Liam were sincere and truthful to their knowledge with me throughout. If someone did deceive them, I do not know who this person is or what this person’s purposes are, but it is my belief that Lauren and Liam did not approach me with malicious intent to deceive me or give me false information.
At best, they're going to be using "I was an idiot and got tricked/I had absolute no knowledge they were agents" as their legal defence, which will likely work because it does seem even the people going after them are taking that view generally so they've got that going for them. It's still an incredibly bad look for them though as you're pointing out from a professional reputation perspective.
You spend like half your time complaining that you're going to have to flee your country because you think your government will lock you up for having the wrong opinions.
But then, when asked repeatedly, you say you'll believe the government that hates you and people with bad opinions, and you'll condemn even people you like that the government has already said they hate...if the government puts the accusation on the right letterhead, essentially. 'Well, it's offficiial!' You've also said it's a smear and an attack but, again, because it's official those guys are all 'greedy grifter fuck larpers.' You've also said that, even when it's official, if it's political, it's more likely to be bullshit. And yet you still say you believe the government, while also calling them corrupt.
You've lost all credibility on this. And you love to feel prosecuted; this has nothing to do with who you are...your opinion is just utter shit on this topic. I'd call out anyone spouting this, regardless of username. This has nothing to do with you.
I think Lethn has some sort of communication impairment. Tons of conversations between him and multiple other posters follow the same pattern: he posts something stupid, gets called stupid, and then says that the stupid thing he said isn’t what he meant, while also repeating that thing, while also misreading other comments. Over and over. And the more analogies someone draws, the more they try to illustrate exactly what the thing he wrote means and what it implies, the more he will insist everyone is “sperging out” and “misinterpreting.”
It’s like he’s working with a dictionary that’s subtly different from everyone else’s, and he never seems to realize that there’s a disconnect between what he means and what he’s actually saying.
Almost like he’s subtly trying to nudge the forum in a certain direction and keeps getting called out for it, so he responds by denying his sliding and accusing everyone else of doing it.
It looks bad, no matter how one frames it. Youtubers need to do a bit more due diligence before accepting money from these orgs... who founded the company? are they real people? what's the company's history?... cause it's a matter of reputation. Leftists don't care about reputation, they'll happily take CCP money and if you point that out, they'll just accuse you of 'bigotry'... but it's not about leftists here, it's about one own's credibility.
I also have a strong suspicion that the DOJ could have stopped that charade very early, but they didn't, probably to make the contributors look worse since they are the opposition...
I'm glad more people are taking this view because it's been fucking silly how butthurt others have been getting over it. They're digging in trying to cry persecution but at the end of the day the more details come out the more they're looking like greedy fucks who took the money without ever questioning it.
At best, they're going to be using "I was an idiot and got tricked/I had absolute no knowledge they were agents" as their legal defence, which will likely work because it does seem even the people going after them are taking that view generally so they've got that going for them. It's still an incredibly bad look for them though as you're pointing out from a professional reputation perspective.
ib4 mass downvotes.
Bruh.
You spend like half your time complaining that you're going to have to flee your country because you think your government will lock you up for having the wrong opinions.
But then, when asked repeatedly, you say you'll believe the government that hates you and people with bad opinions, and you'll condemn even people you like that the government has already said they hate...if the government puts the accusation on the right letterhead, essentially. 'Well, it's offficiial!' You've also said it's a smear and an attack but, again, because it's official those guys are all 'greedy grifter fuck larpers.' You've also said that, even when it's official, if it's political, it's more likely to be bullshit. And yet you still say you believe the government, while also calling them corrupt.
You've lost all credibility on this. And you love to feel prosecuted; this has nothing to do with who you are...your opinion is just utter shit on this topic. I'd call out anyone spouting this, regardless of username. This has nothing to do with you.
I think Lethn has some sort of communication impairment. Tons of conversations between him and multiple other posters follow the same pattern: he posts something stupid, gets called stupid, and then says that the stupid thing he said isn’t what he meant, while also repeating that thing, while also misreading other comments. Over and over. And the more analogies someone draws, the more they try to illustrate exactly what the thing he wrote means and what it implies, the more he will insist everyone is “sperging out” and “misinterpreting.”
It’s like he’s working with a dictionary that’s subtly different from everyone else’s, and he never seems to realize that there’s a disconnect between what he means and what he’s actually saying.
Almost like he’s subtly trying to nudge the forum in a certain direction and keeps getting called out for it, so he responds by denying his sliding and accusing everyone else of doing it.