What it is is fundamental to the morals of it. Is it something hard to attain and which requires work and time for a fitness enthusiast? Or is it something any casual sloth and gluttony fan can get doing nothing.
You are dodging the question, and I highly suspect it's on purpose because you don't want to admit the answer. Throwing up a bullshit smokescreen that is non sequitur to the issue. Women in the 90s and before were just as capable of putting hard work and time as fitness enthusiasts, and did so more than they do now. And the end result wasn't an ass that takes up 1/4 of her body mass. The result was a body like the women in the first set of images. So, ignoring your irrelevant point about how much work it takes to look like a white Shaquanda, women 20 years ago didn't want to. Now they do. Why?
And the moral quality of a white woman trying to look like what black men find attractive is quite simple. It's absolute filth and degeneracy.
All this is in quite the contrast to your OP
My question is, do you think it was deliberately pushed on us by the malicious powers that be, or was it just a natural shift, like as Americans got fatter in general, fatter women who at least kind of wear it better than a blob became the new beauty standard? A bit of both? Any other reasons or factors you might think contributed to it?
It looks like you're already certain of the answer.
I'm not the one dodging anything, it's you being disingenuous. I'm rejecting the premise that they (your examples at least) are fat arsed. It's something else entirely, fitness. They don't share much except size.
Why do I think it is? I don't know. The whole thicc black and big booty latina influence might play a part. So might social media accelerating shifts like that, what once took centuries or decades is now only a generation. But then why wouldn't they just eat their way to that 'ideal' then? It's a million times easier. That's why I think something else is going on.
Not if I can help it, twerking is quite unattractive. Immediate drop. No class, no thanks.
Muscle tissue doesn't do that. It's fat.
But they are fat women.
Ok bud, sure, whatever you want to believe. Because that's a bodybuilder woman while not on a cut with massive quads. And that's your problem, you're not willing to admit that you're wrong, very few people like that. It's gotta be quite niche.
So long as they actually answer the question that I asked instead of trying to waffle around because they don't want to say it out loud, or they have a vested interest in pretending the answer isn't what it is.
"so long as nobody actually disagrees with my conclusions or premises"
I will go out on a limb and make a guess. It is a guess, I'm not putting words in your mouth, but I'm pretty confident that I'm right. I would be willing to bet that the real crux here is that you find the women in the second set of photos more attractive, and of course you have a negative emotional reaction to being told that you find fat women attractive, so you're trying to talk around the point. You can like what you like. But they are fat women. Just because it's not fat everywhere, does not mean those giant tumors at the top of their legs are not composed of adipose tissue. They absolutely are. Ever seen one of those women 'twerk'? Muscle tissue doesn't do that. It's fat. You like fat chicks. Okay, it's not a big deal. You are probably either brown yourself, or fairly young and you grew up in a culture that was brainwashing you into liking brown culture without even realizing it was happening. And now here you are being attracted to the same stuff that black men are attracted to. If you aren't black, you're not supposed to be. So if you're not black and you are, something was done to you to make that the case. Just as it was done to the white women to make them want to be that. But, I will admit it is just a guess on my part.
"You're either black or with my psychoanalysis, I conclude that you are compromised"
Maybe, just maybe, it's that you is wrong. But you already discounted that possibility:
What it is is fundamental to the morals of it. Is it something hard to attain and which requires work and time for a fitness enthusiast? Or is it something any casual sloth and gluttony fan can get doing nothing.
All this is in quite the contrast to your OP
It looks like you're already certain of the answer.
I'm not the one dodging anything, it's you being disingenuous. I'm rejecting the premise that they (your examples at least) are fat arsed. It's something else entirely, fitness. They don't share much except size.
Why do I think it is? I don't know. The whole thicc black and big booty latina influence might play a part. So might social media accelerating shifts like that, what once took centuries or decades is now only a generation. But then why wouldn't they just eat their way to that 'ideal' then? It's a million times easier. That's why I think something else is going on.
Not if I can help it, twerking is quite unattractive. Immediate drop. No class, no thanks.
Ok bud, sure, whatever you want to believe. Because that's a bodybuilder woman while not on a cut with massive quads. And that's your problem, you're not willing to admit that you're wrong, very few people like that. It's gotta be quite niche.
"so long as nobody actually disagrees with my conclusions or premises"
"You're either black or with my psychoanalysis, I conclude that you are compromised"
Maybe, just maybe, it's that you is wrong. But you already discounted that possibility:
And that's the real crux here.