How the Regime Captured Wikipedia
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Honestly, I find this article disappointing. It speaks about events in 2017, 2019, 2020 as "how Wikipedia was infiltrated and subverted," but in truth it's just recounting the moment that some of the people and cliques who had been accruing power there for a long time went slightly more mask off. The earliest red flag it mentions is financial association with a left-wing donor group as of 2016, but it doesn't cover anything about how they came to be associated.
Anyone here who remembers Wikipedia's coverage of Gamergate should know that it already had a heavily leftist bent as of 2014, and I am certain that's not the beginning of the story either. Looking at Jimmy Wales himself, I would suggest that it was never "subverted." Rather, it was run by leftists from its inception, and only became more extreme as they themselves did.
Its another in the long example of "everything bad started happening right around when I started paying attention."
Because if it was bad prior, it makes someone look retarded, ignorant, and possibly even contributing to the problem for not knowing about it. Its why so many people love to talk about the Woke as if it was a recent thing. Or how back in the day it was "3rd Wave Feminism bad." So now history started right when their "red pill" moment did, and everything prior was secretive, underground stuff no one could possibly expect.
Except for those who did, but those guys were crazy conspiracy theorists who nobody could take seriously.
Like with everything else, Trump being elected is a pivotal moment that broke their minds.
Before ~2015 wikipedia was left-leaning, but neutral in tone; "just the facts", but without some "problematic" facts. After for sure 2016 they dropped the neutral tone and now it's only the negative facts about non-lefties and the writing uses emotional tones.
So there was a huge shift around that time.
Compare after-announcing Trump 2015 to Current Trump. In the very long 2015 article there's nothing negative outside the short Controversies section at the very end (the only purposeful negative is listing bankruptcies without mentioning total number of businesses). The current one there is nothing positive anywhere in the article. For instance securing financing for black colleges and black unemployment isn't even mentioned at all - because they're a positive for him.
I don't think I've ever read Trump's wikipedia before but it's actually sickening to see the difference between these two. I knew wikipedia was bad now, but I hadn't realized it was this bad.
I'd say the problem started with Sue Gardener, who was executive director starting in 2007. She's the one who started with the DIE shit by accusing the userbase of misogyny. Jimbo was almost completely absent by that point because he was more interested in finding ways to grift off of Wikipedia's success than seeing through any particular vision. That doesn't excuse his refusal to be the adult in the room when the lunatics took over the asylum but this wasn't his plan from the start. He didn't have a plan and a lot of Wikipedia's dysfunction (which goes far beyond woke infiltration) stems from there being no control at the top in the early days. Their whole "governance" structure consists of gangs of anonymous weirdos fighting turf wars behind the scenes. Jimbo just goes along with the bullshit because he doesn't want the gravy train to end. He's a coward and a grifter but he's not a committed leftist.
He's on twitter retweeting takes from Stephen King about Trump's trial. He may not be the driver of the leftist rot, but I doubt he disagrees with it.
You're really overestimating how principled the dude is. He'd be parroting the shit we say if he thought it would gain him access to the circles he wants to run in and keep the cash flowing. I'm not defending any of the shit he enables, I just think he's opportunist rather than an idealogue.
It was infiltrated from the beginning by degen anarchocommunists and apparently the same juice as traditional media.
Agree.
Didn't make it all the way through the article.
Too much inside baseball stuff with the Fram editor dismissal.
Also no mention of co-founder Larry Sanger mentioning that Wikipedia has lost its way and has too much political bias.
Thank you for this! A lot of people, like us on this board, have known Wikipedia is ideologically captured for a long time. But something like this is great to break it down for the normies!
And how exactly is this article going to reach "the normies"?
People just still don't get it. The left controls what the disinterested masses in the middle see/hear. The right has next to zero ability to reach those people.
Look. The article's great. No one is going to see it, though.
I will second this. The right seems to have this idea that any day some article, book, YouTube documentary is going to be a massive Uno reversal card while the left will continue to lie with a straight face. The right has convinced themselves some smoking gun is going to instantly dismantle the left and the public is just going to snap out of the trance it’s in.
Straight up this.
I see it all the damn time. "We should be campaigning on so-and-so's record!", "We should be pointing out x to the public!", "Look at how they got caught in a lie! We should be hammering their hypocrisy!", etc. The left laughs their asses off at these "attacks", because they have no teeth.
The right has next to zero ability to reach the politically disinterested people in the middle (What is left? You've got maybe Joe Rogan? And what a surprise, who have they been going after lately...). All the stuff the right says either only gets to people already firmly on the right, or - if it reaches the people in the middle at all - is filtered through the leftist propaganda system.
Meanwhile, the entire goddamn country (and basically every other western country, as well) goes through an education system that has been setup to indoctrinate everyone's kids into a leftist mindset, and - on top of that - everyone is constantly beset by near endless amounts of propaganda and narrative-shaping solely designed to make the left look good, and the right look bad. No, not designed to just make the right look bad, but to equate them to Nazis, and fascists - designed to put enormous amounts of pressure on not just "the normies", but on the young, and vulnerable youth to never associate themselves with anything that comes out of the right, as that gets you labelled, and unpersonned.
Look at fucking England the other day, as just one small example. I was in the living room watching some YT while I was lifting weights (via a PS5 hooked up to the TV), and near the entire "Breaking News" ribbon was absolutely filled with clips from the media railing about how "the FAR RIGHT" was rioting, and implying how there was absolutely zero reason any white person in England had any right to be upset, or question anything. Seriously - "Far fight!", "Far right!", "Far right!". "DO NOT EMPATHIZE OR EVEN HEAR WHAT THEY MIGHT BE SAYING, CITIZEN! IF ONE DID THAT, THEY TOO WOULD BE A FAR RIGHT NAZI!" Seriously - every single goddamn clip, and that's just this one story. They do it with literally everything.
This is what I'm (we're) talking about. They have every advantage possible available to them. You get it served up to you on YouTube. Your searches are biased towards it. You see it all over every social discussion site (Reddit, Facebook, etc). Apple/Google serves it up to your phones via their news push-notifications. Microsoft sends it to your desktop via their news thing in the taskbar. Wikipedia is totally gamed to all hell with their (and ONLY their) versions of all of history. Any "fact-checking" site is full of it. For the average person, it is inescapable. The right has nothing even approaching 1% of this level of power.
Nothing is ever going to change, no amount of articles by right-wing affiliated sites, no amount of pointing out the lies, pointing out the hypocrisy, is ever going to matter, until something is done to break the left's indoctrination/propaganda system. People need to be extremely involved in monitoring their kids, and informing/raising them in a way that they are not susceptible to this system. It is possible. I live in fucking California, and I've managed to do it with my son. People need to do that, they need to be (skillfully, not bluntly) always working on their friends to gently show them the system, and how it works. People need to (online, where you don't have to be subtle/gentle) constantly rail against this system. Their system needs to be under constant attack.
If people don't start taking it extremely fucking serious - and not laughing it off (like the previous generations did with leftists in the colleges...) with, "No one care about the media. Hur, hur hur!", "It's just some stupid jannie on reddit shaping the narrative on his default sub! Like *that * is going to effect the election! Hur hur hur!", the west is gone. They are going keep indoctrinating, and keep injecting immigrants (who don't share the west's views, but do have a shitload of kids) into all of our countries, until there are too few of us left to put up any sort of resistance.
Two years ago, the CBC (Canada's runt of an equivalent to the BBC) had newscasters saying the exact same lines while live footage of militarized police played over their shoulders with unarmed truck drivers surrendered on the ground being beaten over and over with rifle butts.
The problem for the right is that the left took decades of small steps to get where they are today. They started getting on school boards and being your county water commissioner. They took over pop culture while the right was like “I don’t watch new movies I don’t care.” Now they are just editing those old movies. Popular music was insidious with its messaging that was lost on people because they “just liked their sound”. Now they have managed to take over things like D&D, comics, Star Wars and kick out the people they used to make fun of for liking it. All the while those on the right will be like “who cares go touch grass” until the future when you can’t even do that because public parks are white supremacy.
The reason people fall for it is because it happens very rarely and is surprisingly effective when it does. For the brief period afterwards the Left is usually pushed back on the defensive panicked. The Bud Light situation is probably the most recent example.
The problem being of course that they never follow it through enough to truly effect things (cutting the grass to control weeds instead of removing by the root), and that its fucking random when it happens or not.
Its banking on a miracle that it even happens, let alone happens in the right domain to do anything.
For me, this just proves what I already know. There is absolutely zero way the left can win at anything without their system of indoctrination and propaganda. It's not fucking normal for people to want stuff like mentally ill d00ds, pretending to be women, being allowed to use the women's restroom. It's not normal to hate, and revile your own country/culture. It's not normal for people to be fucking stupid enough to think racism is bad, except when it's directed at white people, in countries where white people are the majority. It's not normal for those same white people to cheer on being replaced by immigrants who turn the place into a third world shit-hole. None of this crap is normal! People are indoctrinated, and peer-pressured into being like this.
This is why, when something like the Bud-Light thing slips through the media's ability to get on top of it and control it, you get to see what the public is actually like, when they're not being controlled by the left.
God, I hate the fucking left. They get their feet in the door by abusing the west's open societies, and free speech, they start first with the extremely easy to sell message of, "The only reason you don't have as much as you want, is because someone else is taking it from you!", and then they pile on all this other extremely destructive ideology. It's an absolute fucking cancer.
It'll reach the normies I know, because I will send it to them... all politics is local.
It's because we didn't know how many left-ish people in 2004 were going to turn into fully radicalized communist psychos. The idea that two decades after the second Gulf War a third of the people in the country would accept the idea of pregnant men was completely unimaginable. There was no way to foresee how deranged it was going to get.