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How the Regime Captured Wikipedia (www.piratewires.com)
posted 1 year ago by Gazerbeam 1 year ago by Gazerbeam +40 / -0
How the Regime Captured Wikipedia
inside the cultural revolution at wikipedia, which pivoted it from a decentralized database of all the
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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

Honestly, I find this article disappointing. It speaks about events in 2017, 2019, 2020 as "how Wikipedia was infiltrated and subverted," but in truth it's just recounting the moment that some of the people and cliques who had been accruing power there for a long time went slightly more mask off. The earliest red flag it mentions is financial association with a left-wing donor group as of 2016, but it doesn't cover anything about how they came to be associated.

Anyone here who remembers Wikipedia's coverage of Gamergate should know that it already had a heavily leftist bent as of 2014, and I am certain that's not the beginning of the story either. Looking at Jimmy Wales himself, I would suggest that it was never "subverted." Rather, it was run by leftists from its inception, and only became more extreme as they themselves did.

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– Adamrises 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Its another in the long example of "everything bad started happening right around when I started paying attention."

Because if it was bad prior, it makes someone look retarded, ignorant, and possibly even contributing to the problem for not knowing about it. Its why so many people love to talk about the Woke as if it was a recent thing. Or how back in the day it was "3rd Wave Feminism bad." So now history started right when their "red pill" moment did, and everything prior was secretive, underground stuff no one could possibly expect.

Except for those who did, but those guys were crazy conspiracy theorists who nobody could take seriously.

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– fauxgnaws 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Like with everything else, Trump being elected is a pivotal moment that broke their minds.

Before ~2015 wikipedia was left-leaning, but neutral in tone; "just the facts", but without some "problematic" facts. After for sure 2016 they dropped the neutral tone and now it's only the negative facts about non-lefties and the writing uses emotional tones.

So there was a huge shift around that time.

Compare after-announcing Trump 2015 to Current Trump. In the very long 2015 article there's nothing negative outside the short Controversies section at the very end (the only purposeful negative is listing bankruptcies without mentioning total number of businesses). The current one there is nothing positive anywhere in the article. For instance securing financing for black colleges and black unemployment isn't even mentioned at all - because they're a positive for him.

I don't think I've ever read Trump's wikipedia before but it's actually sickening to see the difference between these two. I knew wikipedia was bad now, but I hadn't realized it was this bad.

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– TheOutlaw 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I'd say the problem started with Sue Gardener, who was executive director starting in 2007. She's the one who started with the DIE shit by accusing the userbase of misogyny. Jimbo was almost completely absent by that point because he was more interested in finding ways to grift off of Wikipedia's success than seeing through any particular vision. That doesn't excuse his refusal to be the adult in the room when the lunatics took over the asylum but this wasn't his plan from the start. He didn't have a plan and a lot of Wikipedia's dysfunction (which goes far beyond woke infiltration) stems from there being no control at the top in the early days. Their whole "governance" structure consists of gangs of anonymous weirdos fighting turf wars behind the scenes. Jimbo just goes along with the bullshit because he doesn't want the gravy train to end. He's a coward and a grifter but he's not a committed leftist.

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– LibertyPrimeWasRight 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

He's a coward and a grifter but he's not a committed leftist.

He's on twitter retweeting takes from Stephen King about Trump's trial. He may not be the driver of the leftist rot, but I doubt he disagrees with it.

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– TheOutlaw 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You're really overestimating how principled the dude is. He'd be parroting the shit we say if he thought it would gain him access to the circles he wants to run in and keep the cash flowing. I'm not defending any of the shit he enables, I just think he's opportunist rather than an idealogue.

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It was infiltrated from the beginning by degen anarchocommunists and apparently the same juice as traditional media.

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– Benevolentdictator 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Agree.

Didn't make it all the way through the article.

Too much inside baseball stuff with the Fram editor dismissal.

Also no mention of co-founder Larry Sanger mentioning that Wikipedia has lost its way and has too much political bias.

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