Say you were an infantryman in the Korean War, and you see a Chinese machine gun nest firing at your squad's position. How disgusted are you that they would do that to you?
Interesting that I got downvoted, but the person I asked never actually answered the question.
That's completely different because we're not actually shooting leftists. If we were then it would be completely understandable that they would return fire.
Maybe you don't see yourself as any different than the leftist radicals, but I do. All I wanted was to stop immigration, improve the economy, and stop pandering to women and nonwhites. It's completely reasonable to be disgusted that the left would attempt an assassination or any violence in response to that. It's like if you call someone a bad word and then say, "yeah, they were right to chimp out and stab me. I would do the same."
I mean, not really. My desires are even less specific than yours. I just want to be left mostly alone.
That alone means I deserve to die according to my political opponents, and the reality of conflict is that stakes and depths are decided by the more extreme position.
Your choices are to meet them in kind, or to lose.
So yes, the left has yet to shoot at me. But that's 100% a tactical decision not a moral one for them. Pretending otherwise, pretending that we can have a gentleman's conflict is an illusion that ends the exact second they have a clear shot.
Congrats on your moral high ground, ill be sure to ask them to engrave it on your fancy tombstone.
I want to live in a world where all forms of leftism have just about as many adherents as ancient Olympian Greek religion. And for it to be looked at as laughably in hindsight as that religion is. I want leftism wiped off the face of the Earth to such an extent that future generations look at it's very existence in this time as hilariously backwards with essentially zero living people putting any stock in any of its precepts whatsoever. And I believe absolutely anything done that achieves that final goal is good and noble.
It's been years. Years of this shit parading unendingly. If you're still stuck on disgust you're like a gastric surgeon who gets squeamish about vomit and shit.
It's an understandable response and in most other contexts perfectly reasonable, but in this one it's still going to piss off whoever has to pick up your slack in the operating room, maybe enough that they'll even call you a cuck. Because you're already on the team that's elbow deep in shit and just going "woe is me, I just want these bowels working correctly" instead of being willing to do the necessary work to make that reality. Disgust isn't a productive emotion and it's one that you rightly should acclimatize to if it's necessary.
That dude is a shill. No one on our side uses the term fascism unironically. It's just an enemy buzzword. He's a typical entryist meant to shame and attack us.
I'm not attacking you. I only disagreed with the idea of killing people for having a different opinion. Also, people here use the term fascists regularly, as in, "leftists have always been the real fascists." We don't behave like our enemy does because we have standards.
I get where your analogy is going but let me flip it on you. You're a soldier in the War in Afghanistan and you see insurgents strapping explosives to a child and sending him towards your position. How disgusted are you that they would do that?
In your example, it's soldiers with similar notions of war, with similar values. You and the Chinese guy both consider shooting machine guns at soldiers to be within the bounds of what is acceptable. But that's not what this is. This is decent people with one notion of war/politics against a group that will cross every line if they think it benefits them.
The right is continually shocked and disgusted at the left because the right has ideals and one of them is placing value on morality.
Say you were an infantryman in the Korean War, and you see a Chinese machine gun nest firing at your squad's position. How disgusted are you that they would do that to you?
Interesting that I got downvoted, but the person I asked never actually answered the question.
That's completely different because we're not actually shooting leftists. If we were then it would be completely understandable that they would return fire.
It's not different at all, and the fact you think it is means this post was for you.
Maybe you don't see yourself as any different than the leftist radicals, but I do. All I wanted was to stop immigration, improve the economy, and stop pandering to women and nonwhites. It's completely reasonable to be disgusted that the left would attempt an assassination or any violence in response to that. It's like if you call someone a bad word and then say, "yeah, they were right to chimp out and stab me. I would do the same."
I mean, not really. My desires are even less specific than yours. I just want to be left mostly alone.
That alone means I deserve to die according to my political opponents, and the reality of conflict is that stakes and depths are decided by the more extreme position.
Your choices are to meet them in kind, or to lose.
So yes, the left has yet to shoot at me. But that's 100% a tactical decision not a moral one for them. Pretending otherwise, pretending that we can have a gentleman's conflict is an illusion that ends the exact second they have a clear shot.
Congrats on your moral high ground, ill be sure to ask them to engrave it on your fancy tombstone.
I want to live in a world where all forms of leftism have just about as many adherents as ancient Olympian Greek religion. And for it to be looked at as laughably in hindsight as that religion is. I want leftism wiped off the face of the Earth to such an extent that future generations look at it's very existence in this time as hilariously backwards with essentially zero living people putting any stock in any of its precepts whatsoever. And I believe absolutely anything done that achieves that final goal is good and noble.
It's been years. Years of this shit parading unendingly. If you're still stuck on disgust you're like a gastric surgeon who gets squeamish about vomit and shit.
It's an understandable response and in most other contexts perfectly reasonable, but in this one it's still going to piss off whoever has to pick up your slack in the operating room, maybe enough that they'll even call you a cuck. Because you're already on the team that's elbow deep in shit and just going "woe is me, I just want these bowels working correctly" instead of being willing to do the necessary work to make that reality. Disgust isn't a productive emotion and it's one that you rightly should acclimatize to if it's necessary.
That dude is a shill. No one on our side uses the term fascism unironically. It's just an enemy buzzword. He's a typical entryist meant to shame and attack us.
I'm not attacking you. I only disagreed with the idea of killing people for having a different opinion. Also, people here use the term fascists regularly, as in, "leftists have always been the real fascists." We don't behave like our enemy does because we have standards.
I genuinely don't see how that's analogous.
Also, you've got to give a brother some leeway on response time LOL. I have a job, and it's only been four hours. Chill dude.
I get where your analogy is going but let me flip it on you. You're a soldier in the War in Afghanistan and you see insurgents strapping explosives to a child and sending him towards your position. How disgusted are you that they would do that?
In your example, it's soldiers with similar notions of war, with similar values. You and the Chinese guy both consider shooting machine guns at soldiers to be within the bounds of what is acceptable. But that's not what this is. This is decent people with one notion of war/politics against a group that will cross every line if they think it benefits them.
The right is continually shocked and disgusted at the left because the right has ideals and one of them is placing value on morality.