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The problem with this stat is that feminist as a label ranges from militant ideologue to "yeah totally I'm into that, I like voting and stuff."
They are all stupid and shouldn't be allowed to talk, but bad stats are always bad.
How to tell if someone is a feminist without asking them if they are a feminist.
Ask them if they think women should vote, if they think women should work in jobs equal to men and if they think women should have equal say to a man in a relationship.
If they answer yes to any of the 3 they are a feminist. I'd wager more like 99% of modern women are feminists.
You’re not wrong in saying that those are ultimately feminist ideas, but you’ve actually only expanded on the issue that u/Adamrises was pointing out: your classification is so broad as to be useless (or perhaps even worse, demoralizing). There’s a big difference between “yeah, sure, I assume this is normal and right because that’s what I’ve always been taught and everyone says that means I’m a feminist so I guess I am” and “I am a feminist; I go protest against male domestic violence shelters because they already have enough privilege.”
It's not useless for me though. The purpose is to show people that nearly all women in modernity are feminists. If I wanted to specify something else, I'd say something like "radical feminist" which might only be 60% of women.
And I agree with this assessment. Women all eat from the ill-gotten gains of feminism so they can also be weighed with the sins of them too.
I simply think studies like that are retarded, self-reporting ones even more so, and with women already being retarded it makes extrapolating anything from it useless anyway.
When in reality, as already mentioned, they eat from feminist's treasury so they all are one regardless of what they think.
Okay, but what are you going to do with that? Are you agreeing with Imp, women need to be collectively put through a Nuremberg trial? Are you going MGTOW? Or is it just an observation that gee, a lot of people hold feminist beliefs? Because again, if we’re being honest, the majority of western men are probably also feminists under this definition.
I don't agree. I think by now, with the massive oversaturation of feminist propaganda, everyone is well aware what they're endorsing.
Hell, the deeper message of Barbie was that women should keep men as slaves and make sure they never revolt, and it's one of the highest grossing movies of all time. They know damn well what they're endorsing and it shows in what they vote for.
This is where we will always differ. I think they are stupid and you think they are geniuses.
They aren't smart enough to know what they are endorsing. 99% of them haven't read any feminist theory or literature, they just know "feminist = good" and identify as it because they want to be seen as good.
Shit every girl I know that went see Barbie liked it because pastel and pink, and I had to explain the messaging to them to their shock.
99% of them haven’t actually read Betty Friedan, the same way 99% of us haven’t read John Stuart Mill.
True, but at least most here have recognized that labeling yourself is cringe. So they are just ignorant of broad major works instead of the specific literature they claim to be a disciple of.
Also good call on using Mill as an example, given he was one of the earliest suffragettes with arguments so retarded it undermines all the other more landmark works he wrote.